Don't Start the Second Gulf War

National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

[nopardons]

When the USA began sending " advisors ", under JFK, to Nam, the anti-war movemnet was a tiny group of Commies/ Socialists/ Ban the Bombers / anti-war warriors, who had been around during WW II and Korea and the Cuban Missle Crisis. The more they engaged, the louder they became, the more publicity they got, and the more LBJ micromanaged ( with McNanmara, et al ) and made a mess of things, the more adherents they attractted. Those, who went over to their side, gave aid and comfort to our enemies, as well as to those they banded with. Some people, call them what you will, are attracted to numbers ... NOT positions.

That is the problem with supposed Conservatives ( and this includes FREEPERS and ex administration GOPers , retired generals, etc. )agreeing with the likes of Asner, Fonda, Gore ( who has flip- flopped now, so many times, on this matter, that he looks like a wooden puzzle piece ), etc.

[Texasforever]

They do get testy when out classed don't they? LOL

[COB1]

NP, I've read this whole thread, and I've got one thing to say to these anti-war idiots:

5

[nopardons]

Yep; but didn't you know that FreedominJesusChrist claims that posting a " 5 " is overdone and juvenile ? Poor widdle baby doesn't like it. LOL

[St.Chuck]

By spreading their vicious, poisonous Weltanschauung around the world, and finally by destroying our buildings, the *infrastructure* of Islamic fundamentalism has forfeited its right to coexist with our Empire...

Yes, it is important to point out that it is about empire. It's also useful to be aware of the price maintaining an empire has. The more powerful the empire, the more opportunity for resentment. The more heavy-handed one becomes in dealing with these resentments, the more intense the resentment becomes. It's very taxing to be emperor.

[COB1]

The problem is, Texas, that these people go to their regular Web site, like Cato, to be wound up in the morning and get their talking points for the day.
When some facts are thrown at them that weren't covered in the talking points, it ruins their whole day.
Then they stomp their feet and pout!

[nopardons]

Thank you, thank you ... b-l-u-s-h.

[nopardons]

Your barin " overtaxt ", dear ? Can't handle rational, well reasoned debate ? Difficulty comprehending factual information ? Pity that.

[COB1]

"FreedominJesusChrist claims that posting a " 5 " is overdone and juvenile ?"

And how many times is this paragon of intelligence, FJC, going to let us call him a fifth columnist?
Four......ten.......twenty?
I sure hope he lets us know so I can start counting!
I would sure hate to irritate him!

[nopardons]

What can you expect, from people who must be spoonfed everything, or else they couldn't post ?

[nopardons]

barin = brain

[nopardons]

It's a 20 year old she and she hasn't stopped stomping her feet long enough to aprise us of the number. LOL

[COB1]

I think you've succeeded in stomping out this blaze, np.
I'm going to put mine to bed.

Hugs to you, dear friend.

[Ronzo]

This is where the article is completely wrong. Iraq is a threat to not just the US, but the entire world. I hope the thought isn't so myopic to believe that because he doesn't have ICBMs, that he isn't a threat to us... he will get them. And he will use them.

Question: Which is a bigger threat to the USA and the rest of the world -- Iraq or China? State your answer in 500 words or less.

Helpful Hint: The correct answer to the above question is China. And it is only 100 times more of a threat RIGHT NOW than Iraq could ever, ever be.

The author of this article has an excellent point - Saddam is totally and completely secular. He is more of a Don Corleone (sp?) than an Osama Bin Laden or even an Adolph Hitler. In other words, he's just a bully; yet a bully who's very interested in self preservation.

There are about 10 or 20 countries I would love for us to wipe-out above and beyond Iraq, including (but limited to) Cuba, North Korea, and France. I would also include the psuedo country of Palestine, just because I'm so sick of their whiny little behinds.

You heard it here first: there will be no attack against Iraq, unless Saddam forgets his table manners and does something completely stupid...it could happen...

[realpatriot71]

Some people here are war-hawk meatheads and wouldn't know how to logically problem solve, if they were given the opportunity.

That is probably the most beautiful statement I've seen today :-)

[saradippity]

I was only agreeing with you,you said to me that W.C.was a jerk and is a jerk.I confirmed my preexisting knowledge of information that YOU gave me.Then you start shrieking at me for repeating and agreeing with what you said.You are acting like the devil when confronted with truth,or an ox who is being gored.Did I accidentally say something that worried you?I'll have to go back and reread my comments.

[Texasforever]

Question: Which is a bigger threat to the USA and the rest of the world -- Iraq or China? State your answer in 500 words or less.

Iraq. China is too busy making money from us to be a threat. This insane notion that because we do not go to war with China or other dictatorships is a transparent attempt to not go to war under any circumstance. Why Iraq? Because we have been in a state of war since the start of the Gulf war. They have continually breached the cease-fire agreement and are rebuilding both their conventional forces and WMD. So take your straw men back to Ramsey Clark and try again.

[wattsmag2]

I would suggest that you ask those living under the Taliban if they would rather be dead.

I'd suggest you go back and review news footage of people in Afghanistan truly beginning to LIVE after the defeat of the Taliban.

I'd also suggest you review how many people the Taliban killed and through that review estimate how many would have died had we not helped the Northern Aliance.

Finally, I'd suggest you go live in a Moslem society and see how long you cling to your beliefs.

[Howlin]

I'd suggest you go back and review news footage of people in Afghanistan truly beginning to LIVE after the defeat of the Taliban.

Which is exactly why the government in Iran went door to door and confiscated satellite dishes.

[wattsmag2]

Howdy Howlin