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Don't Start the Second Gulf War
National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

Posted on 09/24/2002 11:51:53 AM PDT by Protagoras

Don’t Start the Second Gulf War
The case against war with Iraq.

By Doug Bandow
August 12, 2002, 9:00 a.m.

President George W. Bush says that he hasn't made up his mind about "any of our policies in regard to Iraq," but he obviously has. To not attack after spending months talking about the need for regime change is inconceivable. Unfortunately, war is not likely to be the simple and certain procedure that he and many others seem to think.

Lots of arguments have been offered on behalf of striking Baghdad that are not reasons at all. For instance, that Saddam Hussein is an evil man who has brutalized his own people.

Certainly true. But the world is full of brutal regimes that have murdered their own people. Indeed, Washington ally Turkey's treatment of its Kurds is scarcely more gentle than Iraq's Kurdish policies.

Moreover, the U.S. warmly supports the royal kleptocracy next door in Saudi Arabia, fully as totalitarian, if not quite as violent, as Saddam's government. Any non-Muslim and most women would probably prefer living in Iraq.

Also cited is Baghdad's conquest of Kuwait a dozen years ago. It is a bit late to drag that out as a justification for invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam. He is far weaker today and has remained firmly contained.

Richard Butler, former head of the U.N. Commission on Iraq, complained to the Senate Foreign Relations that Iraq had violated international law by tossing out arms inspectors. In fact, there are often as many reasons to flout as to obey U.N. rules. Washington shouldn't go to war in some abstract pursuit of "international law."

Slightly more plausible, at least, is the argument that creating a democratic system in Iraq would provide a useful model for the rest of the Mideast. But that presupposes democracy can be easily planted, and that it can survive once the U.S. departs.

Iraq suffers from significant internal stresses. Convenient professions of unity in pursuit of democracy from an opposition once dismissed by Mideast special envoy and retired Gen. Anthony Zinni as "silk-suited, Rolex-wearing guys in London" offer little comfort and are likely to last no longer than have similar promises in Afghanistan.

Also problematic are Kurdish demands for autonomy and Shiite Muslim resistance to the central government. One defense official told the Washington Post: "I think it is almost a certainty that we'd wind up doing a campaign against the Kurds and Shiites." Wouldn't that be pretty? <

There are external threats as well. Particularly worrisome would be covert and possibly overt action by Iran, with which Baghdad fought a decade-long war and which might see intervention against a weakened Iraq as an antidote to serious political unrest at home.

Indeed, the U.S. backed Baghdad in its conflict with Iran and decided not to depose Saddam in 1991, in part out of fear of Iranian aggression throughout the Gulf should Iraq no longer provide a blocking role. Keeping the Iraqi Humpty Dumpty together after a war might not be easy.

Moreover, while Americans might see America's war on Iraq as a war for democracy, most Arabs would likely see it as a war for Washington. If the U.S. deposes Saddam, but leaves in place friendly but despotic regimes elsewhere — such as Egypt, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia — few Arabs would take America's democracy rhetoric seriously. Nor should they. Yet to go to war against everyone, including presumably Iran, Syria, and maybe others, would have incalculable consequences.

Saddam's complicity in September 11 would present a good argument for devastating retaliation for an act of war, but there's no evidence that he was involved. All that exists is a disputed meeting, which might not have occurred, in the Czech Republic between hijacker Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi official.

Certainly Saddam shed no tears over the thousands who died on that tragic day, but he has never been known to promote groups which he does not control. In contrast to Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein is no Muslim fanatic looking forward to his heavenly rewards; moreover, he heads a government and nation against which retaliation is simple.

Probably the best, at least the most fearsome, argument for overthrowing Saddam is the prospect of Baghdad developing weapons of mass destruction. Yet if nonproliferation should be enforced by war, Washington will be very busy in the coming years.

The problem is not just countries like Iran and North Korea, which seem to have or have had serious interest in developing atomic weapons. It is China, which could use them in any conflict with the U.S. over, say, Taiwan. And India, Pakistan, and Russia, which face unpredictable nationalist and theological currents, enjoy governments of varying instability, and offer uncertain security over technical know-how as well as weapons.

Potentially most dangerous is Pakistan's arsenal. The government of Pervez Musharraf is none too steady; Islamabad long supported the Taliban and its military and intelligence forces almost certainly contain al Qaeda sympathizers. It is easy to imagine nuclear technology falling into terrorist hands.

An Iraqi nuclear capability seems less frightening in comparison. Saddam would not use them against America, since to do so would guarantee his incineration. Israel possesses a similarly overbearing deterrent.

Would Baghdad turn atomic weapons over to al Qaeda or similarly motivated terrorists? Not likely.

First, it would be extraordinary for Saddam to give up a technology purchased at such a high price. Second, Baghdad would be the immediate suspect and likely target of retaliation should any terrorist deploy nuclear weapons, and Saddam knows this.

Third, Saddam would be risking his own life. Al Qaeda holds secular Arab dictators in contempt and would not be above attempting to destroy them as well as America.

Of course, the world would be a better place without Saddam's dictatorship. But there are a lot of regimes that should, and eventually will, end up in history's dustbin. That's not a good reason to initiate war against a state which poses no direct, ongoing threat.

Especially since war often creates unpredictable consequences. Without domestic opposition military forces to do America's dirty work, Washington will have to bear most of the burden. The task will be more difficult and expensive without European support and Saudi staging grounds.

If Iraq's forces don't quickly crumble, the U.S. might find itself involved in urban conflict that will be costly in human and political terms. If Baghdad possesses any weapons of mass destruction, Saddam will have an incentive to use them — against America, Israel, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia — since Washington would be dedicated to his overthrow.

Further, the U.S. would be sloshing gasoline over a combustible political situation in friendly but undemocratic Arab regimes stretching from North Africa to Southeast Asia. Israelis and Palestinians are at war, America continues to fight Taliban and al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan as the pro-western government teeters on chaos, fundamentalist Muslims rule western Pakistan, and Muslim extremists are active a dozen other countries. Yet the administration wants to invade Iraq. Riots in Egypt, a fundamentalist rising in Pakistan, a spurt of sectarian violence in Indonesia, and who knows what else could pose a high price for any success in Iraq.

War is a serious business. Making war on a country which does not threaten the U.S. is particularly serious. Even if the optimists who think a campaign against Iraq would be easy are right, and we can only hope they are, war should be a last resort. As House Majority Leader Richard Armey warned, an unprovoked attack "would not be consistent with what we have been as a nation or what we should be as a nation."

There's certainly no hurry to go to war. Nothing is different today from September 10, 2001, or any time since Iraq was ousted from Kuwait. Observes Jim Cornette, formerly an expert in biological warfare with the Air Force: "We've bottled [Saddam] up for 11 years, so we're doing okay."

There are times when Washington has no choice but to fight. Iraq is not such a place and now is not such a time.

— Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and a former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; cato; onemontholdarticle; saddam; war
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To: rintense
Mommy called him for dinner, not to mention daddy wants to check his email. Look at the time when he posted this enemy appeasement thread..... RIGHT AFTER THE LAST SCHOOL BELL RINGS at Berkeley Junior High :-)
321 posted on 09/24/2002 5:16:25 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: ThomasJefferson
And shame on the childish people who have detracted from the site with their boorish actions

You think our questions are boorish??

Then why bother asking us what we think??

322 posted on 09/24/2002 5:16:38 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: MJY1288
Why? Because in the future, when the United States is attacked again, they can use in-action as another stick to beat the President- no matter who he/she is or what party they belong to. This is exactly the same as the liberals who kept saying 9-11 could have bee prevented and wanted to blame Bush! It is always so much easier to cast blame and hate than it is to present and solve problems. I hold the same disdain for people in the corporate world who continually complain yet offer no solutions.

Some people are never happy unless they are always unhappy- and make the rest of us suffer through their private misery.

323 posted on 09/24/2002 5:18:41 PM PDT by rintense
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To: ThomasJefferson
I'm guessing it was a rhetorical question however on the part of the other poster.

Bingo.

324 posted on 09/24/2002 5:18:52 PM PDT by slimer
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To: rintense
That's why I try not to debate these anal retentive invertebrates. I just don't have the stomach for it. It's like to teach the French not to surrender. HOPELESS
325 posted on 09/24/2002 5:20:43 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: ThomasJefferson
Abu Abbas has been training terrorists in Iraq.

Abu Nidal spent a decade in Iraq plying his trade at the behest of Saddam Hussein.

Salman Pak located in Iraq is a training site for terrorist hijackers.

Al Ani and Atta met in Prague, the Czech officials have never deviated one iota from that fact.

Saddam Hussein has stockpiled CB weapons in violation of the terms of the cease fire.

Saddam Hussein has stockpiled missiles capable of reaching Israel, Cyprus, Greece, Turkey Kuwait et al in violation of the cease fire terms.

Saddam Hussein attempted to assasinate President George HW Bush.

Saddam Hussein fires on Americans on an almost daily basis in violation of the cease fire.

Saddam Hussein has already demonstrated his willingness to use CB weapons on both his enemies and his countrymen.

Iraq has been trying to buy enriched uranium in Africa, ostensibly for use in their Nuclear Program which by the way they don't have. Ask Tariq Aziz.

Saddam Husseins son wrote an editorial asking Iraqi's and jihadists to rise up and kill American cicvilians globally.

It isn't President Bush's wish to rid the world of Saddam Hussein, it is his duty as put forth in the Congressional Resolution to hunt down terrorist and those that harbor them. Hussein qualifies hands down.

What do you suppose Doug Bandow would have written in early September 2001 if President Bush proposed cleaning out the Usama bin Ladens rats nest then?

326 posted on 09/24/2002 5:21:14 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Good try, but he is still gonna ask you for proof
327 posted on 09/24/2002 5:24:05 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: ThomasJefferson
Will you just answer the question, TJ... What is YOUR opinion on this article and the Iraqi situation. You are quick to challenge everyone else who disagrees with the article. So fess up.
328 posted on 09/24/2002 5:24:18 PM PDT by rintense
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To: ThomasJefferson
My opinion is irrelevant, except of course to those who might want to attack me instead of discussing an important topic.

But it's ok for you to challenge those who answered honestly to your post? You are sounding more and more like a coward to me.

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

What do you stand for, TJ (in respect to the article, naturally)

329 posted on 09/24/2002 5:26:58 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Mo1
Good try, but he is still gonna ask you for proof

The proof that would stand up in a court of law is all in Iraq. He'll be getting it soon enough.

330 posted on 09/24/2002 5:29:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: rintense
He obviously doesn't have one.... after all! It's not in the constitution, how the hell is one of these blue blooded patriots gonna have an opinion the founding fathers didn't utter something about Saddam Hussain
331 posted on 09/24/2002 5:29:38 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
This just makes me sick. He asks for honesty. He gets it. And he won't even post his OWN opinion. Disgusting.
332 posted on 09/24/2002 5:29:58 PM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense
It's impossible for Invertebrates to stand, they just slither away :-)
333 posted on 09/24/2002 5:32:38 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: rintense
normal liberal plant
334 posted on 09/24/2002 5:33:12 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: ThomasJefferson
He died,was declared mia for three or four days.I am so grateful that they declared him even though they didn't find his body for 30 years at which point they sent home a thigh bone and lots of pictures of co-ordinates and said it was him.I,of course believe it.Actually,I accepted it as true because I knew it would give some meaning to his life through his children's eyes since they were all too young to really understand what happened when it happened.

The disinformation I received initially was enough for me to know that things were not as they seemed.I spent a good deal of time reading books on guerrilla warfare and counter-insurgency which I advise everyone to read up on.

And yes,I know when you are fighting a war you cannot telegraph your every move to the enemy,I did not expect that but there are just some things that were so clearly crazy vis a vis the government,the media and the student protesters. Ugh!!!

335 posted on 09/24/2002 5:33:23 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: jwalsh07
Oh you & your pesky little facts. You're such a BushBot.

If you have facts....your posts dont get responded to.
If you mock then you get a stern telling to.

...but as long as we [?] are having a well reasoned debate and politely considering others [?] points of view.

This whole thread was the single largest waste of bandwidth since taliban-news.com went up.

336 posted on 09/24/2002 5:34:45 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: rintense; Mo1; MJY1288
I've read this thread from the start and you are absolutely right.

Playing the part of the condescending teacher, admonishing the class to stay on topic, while not offering an opinion of his own is annoying at best, dishonest at worst.

It's obvious the poster has an opinion, or he wouldn't have posted the article and then challenged only those that support the President and the removal of Saddam.

To try to appear to sit on the fence is transparent and I've decided I'm not playing his game.

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337 posted on 09/24/2002 5:35:44 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: VaBthang4
BTW This is hilarious


338 posted on 09/24/2002 5:37:56 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: VaBthang4
"If you have facts....your posts dont get responded to. If you mock then you get a stern telling to." Bingo!
339 posted on 09/24/2002 5:38:05 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: terilyn
My guess is he is Jihad Johnny's little brother
340 posted on 09/24/2002 5:40:19 PM PDT by MJY1288
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