Don't Start the Second Gulf War

National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

[Luis Gonzalez]

"The reasons for posting crap are what?"

You're asking me?

Ask TJ, he posted the article!

[sleavelessinseattle]

FWIW, I have no problem with your posting this Article TJ.
And the "noise" level is deafening wherever the hyena's roam. We need you on FR, to keep up the intellectual discourse, and I say this without really worrying about your personal view of going into IRAQ. My own reason for going in as soon as an immediate victory is as sure as such can be anticipated is that the rest of the Islamist/Nazi regimes have got to see us make an example of how thuggery is rewarded even if it doesn't totally fit due to the secular nature of Iraq's structure...It is foolish to sit by and allow more young arabs to be indoctrinated into the delusion that ISLAM will prevail in ANY conflict for territory or religious fundamentalism...An example must be made SOON!

[Huck]

It should be pointed out however, that the author is not the subject. Thoughtful concideration of the points he has made and critique of them should be the goal of this thread. I know you can rise above discussing the author instead of the ideas, I have seen you do it on occasion.

But if you go back and look, that is all I have been doing. Someone else came along and asked how I could say the author was "too liberal." And if you go back and look (I am not asking you too--hell, I didn't even bother), you will see that I pointed out that I was not speaking about the author, of whom I am not familiar, but his arguments. His arguments, TJ. That is what I have been talking about.

[stuartcr]

Discussing is fine, it's what I am doing. Debating is something different, and it's not what I want to do. Your opinion doesn't interest me at all. If it exists, and is obvious to me, I am here to offer a different point of view.

[Protagoras]

They talk in circles and demand that the rest of the world join in on the tiresome debate .

No one demanded that you or anyone else join in any debate. You are free to visit a different thread.

The article represents one persons opinion. It is after all, an OP ED piece. If you aren't interested, please move along. Other seem to have been interested in reading and commenting on the ideas found in the article. The number of replies is getting quite long.

[stuartcr]

How can you possibly expect an opinion on a question about something over 200 yrs ago? I already know the outcome of the war. All that has formed the way I think at this time, is what has happened in my lifetime. Nothing that makes me think the way I do today, was even in existence in 1776! It's a ridiculous question. If I was royalist, I probably would have been against the war, if I was an indentured farmer, I probably would have been for it. No one alive today can answer that question honestly. Please be realistic, as well as honest.

[stuartcr]

What graphics?

[Protagoras]

Thank you for the comments. I'm glad there is a place to post such opinions for discussion. Some here seem to think it would be a better site if everyone agreed and no one posted thought provoking articles.

Only those articles that toed the "company line", would make this one dull place.

[saradippity]

I just want you to know I appreciate your posting the article,I happen to agree with it entirely.You have said you're still considering so it was especially nice of you to post it.

My husband was shot down in Viet Nam and I have watched our government since.As the years have passed I find it terribly sad to see that nothing has changed.It is a little less easy to shnooker folks with the instant and accessible means of communications;however,the dumbing down of the populace has probably erased any advantages the increased information could have gained.This is compounded by the casual attitude toward truth which most people have adopted and I think we are worse off than during the Viet Nam era.

Reading some of these comments by Freepers,who I consider to be quite above average in intellect and understanding,is truly frightening.It almost seems as if our leaders want us to be docile,impoverished citizens of the planet earth.

[TLBSHOW]

they are traitors and commmies!

[TLBSHOW]

he can't count beyond

5

[saradippity]

I am confused,I have read in more than one place that with the Northern Alliance back in charge the drug dealing and overt homosexuality is back on the streets. So I guess it all depends on the "strokes" you like best.

Remnds me of what we did in Kosovo,but I guess we did relieve them of some of those dumb,old churches and bridges.

[slimer]

Don't Start the Second Gulf War

Don't worry Dougie, we're not starting anything. We're going to FINISH IT!

[Chad Fairbanks]

It almost seems as if our leaders want us to be docile,impoverished citizens of the planet earth.

Isn't that the DNC's Platform for 2004?

[iconoclast]

Well, I would ask for your source, but doubt you have one,

Well, I gotta scoot outta here to go to chorus practice (yeah, I have a life) but I'll try to remember to send you one tomorrow and I'll be very specific because I doubt if you'd recognize a source if it ran over you in a Mack truck.

Look 'em up yourself if you can't wait, they're right here on FR. But READ BEYOND THE HEADLINE!

[Hugin]

Don’t Start the Second Gulf War

Actually, we're just finishing the first one.

[hobbes1]

Rotflmao!

[MJY1288]

What's the deal? Why are these Libertarians so against preventing Saddam from getting nukes and removing him from power?

Saddam must be sitting on a large amount of good drugs or something? Why else would these dopers be so worried about a Regime change in Iraq? I guess since Noriega was removed from power and the drug trade severely slowed, along with the recent success in South America, Drugs must be hard to get and Saddam must be their last hope

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Gimme 5, Harry.

[Protagoras]

I just want you to know I appreciate your posting the article

Thank you. It also has served to bring a few childish posters to the forefront where they unwittingly expose their "contributions" to FreeRepublic.

I am sorry that your husband was shot down, I hope that doesn't mean he was killed. If so, please accept my deepest christian sympathy. And if not, please thank him for serving our country in an unpopular war. My gratitude to our soldiers is deep. It is one reason I don't take war talk lightly.

There is a lot of gung ho warriors here who would tone it down some if they ever had to do the fighting themselves. Hard to fight with a load in the drawers. Easier on the internet.

Which is not said to denigrate those here who truly believe that we should go to war for all the right reasons. Many of them have what it takes. It isn't usually hard to tell the difference.