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MAJOR RADICAL ISLAMIST TERRORIST ATTACK IN INDIA!!
Hindustani Times ^
| 24 September 2002
| Hindustani Times
Posted on 09/24/2002 10:55:12 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
Terrorists storm temple in Gandhinagar Agencies New Delhi, September 24
Three suspected terrorists have entered a temple in Gujarat's capital Gandhinagar and resorted to indiscriminate firing, killing at least 25 and injuring several others.
The terrorists entered the Akshardham temple belonging to the Swaminarayan sect around 1700 hours and fired at devotees.
"Seven men and women and four children are dead. Twenty-five people are injured and the injured are being taken out of the temple to Gandhinagar hospital," Inspector R B Rawal in the Gujarat state intelligence room told Reuters.
"There were over 50 people inside the temple when three gunmen opened fire inside the temple," Gujarat Home Secretary K Nitya Nandam told AFP.
State police control room spokesman G L Singhal had said earlier that four people had been killed in the shooting.
A television news channel put the toll at 6 dead and 40 injured.
According to an eyewitness, the three terrorists were wearing Army uniform and were armed with AK 47 rifles and sten guns.
A local police official said the terrorists had thrown a bomb at the temple, which is on fire.
According to initial reports, police forces have surrounded the temple and efforts are being made to evict people inside the temple. There is utter chaos in and around the temple.
A gun battle is reportedly on between the security forces and the terrorists. Commondos have reached the temple complex and the Army has also been called to deal with the situation.
The temple is close to the residence of the Gujarat Governor and Chief Minister and other VVIPs. The Gujarat State Assembly and Secretariat are within two kilometers of the temple complex.
The Gujarat government had received intelligence reports on the possibility of such an incident happening. Several VVIps visit the large temple complex daily.
Doctors in Ahmedabad have been told to report to hospitals.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fanatics; hindu; india; islam; terrorists
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
The problem is that the fanatics are not playing to win.
They don't care about their own lives, the lives of anyone else, who gets hurt or even if humanity or civilization survives. They don't care about sustaining social stability, political stability or production.
Unfortunately we play into their hands when we punish the entire population for the acts of a few. The fanatics are fearless, chaotic and crazy. They want to die in the battlefield whether that means NYC or the mountains of Persia. The more we clamp down, the more war, the more chaos, the more economic and human hardship - the easier their recruitment efforts.
They are to civilization, what virii are to the body.
To: Illbay
You could also cite the domestic terrorism back during the 60s, perpetrated by SDS and similar groups. ELF and ALF are American terrorist groups hell bend on destroying our freedom and society as we know it , too.
To: a history buff
I am no fan of the system. Yes, it was needed to maintain some social discipline otherwise islam would have completely obliterated hinduism and buddhism in india much as it wiped out Zorastrianism in Persia, Buddhism in Afghanistan and Christianity from AsiaMinor and the MidEast.
Some outposts of Hinduism survived, such as Bali whereas the rest of Indonesia and Malaysia became Muslim.
Was justified then, isn't now, and has broken down widely throughout India, especially in the urban areas but unfortunately remains prevalent in the rural areas.
A society hung up on the caste system would never have appointed a Muslim to be a president, nor have an Italian lady as the head of a major political party.
To: aristeides

Good question...and here's the answer: right on the Paki border.
To: null and void
During the Boer War, the famous Commander, Breaker Morant ordered the summary execution of a prisoner in the field. The following excerpt is from a
law review article from the University of Oklahoma.
...At the Court-Martial, when challenged to explain the rule under which Visser was shot, (Breaker) Morant passionately responded that it was customary in war to kill the enemy. Morant admitted disdainfully that the execution did not look like the Court-Martial, but he reminded the Court that war is not a Court-Martial and soldiers do and are expected to use their British Enfield Caliber 303 rifles to kill the enemy. Seething, Morant answered, "We caught them and we shot them under Rule 303."
To: Illbay
The smart ones realise they have more opportunities in a democratic, secular India than the hellhole of an islamic pakistan nextdoor for instance.
India has had untouchables in postion of power ie President.
It's not perfect but slowly things change.
To: concerned about politics
"...The colonist came to escape the oppression of a king, and fighting this type of communism, a dictorial king, has kept America free....While I am loath to drag this thread too far from its origin in the bloody attack upon Hindu worshippers, I suppose everything is related to everything else in some strange way. So....
1.)The colonists were loyal subjects of the King until colonial culture evolved too far away from its English Homeland. In one sense--a sense that I think is wonderful--the Founding Fathers were New World aristocrats--a noble class even-- re-asserting their privileges against the Crown. They fought for liberty; not equality and not freedom(whatever that word may mean.)
2.)No European Christian monarchy could ever remotely be considered "dictatorial". Modern dictatorships had to wait until the ideas of the French Revolution finally took hold in the imaginations of the American Ruling Class--betraying the traditions and practices of their own brilliant aristocratic revolution---who foisted them off on the european continent after WWI.
"communism" is always a tricky word to throw around. The Founders were very "communal", patriarchal men connected to the soil. Modern communism, ironically depended upon the triumph of urban captialism to flourish--because, of course, "communism" is simply the control of capital by State managers rather than individuals or corporations. But they're all hangin' in the same hood...
I guess we just have some fundamental disagreements about what is (was) great about our country.....
To: AmericanInTokyo
"There needs to be a worldwide declaration of war against this fanaticism." -- it needs to begin here, I might add.
The support for a worldwide religious "civil war" is building. Ideologies that kill non adherents, innocents or advocate it, MUST be removed from the face of the planet... just because they call themselves a "religion" does not mean they are anything other than an organized "nonprofit" band of murderers.
IT is time for governments who seek peace for their people, to start bulldozing Islamic Hate Crime Centers... formerly known as mosques.
Islamikazis UNDERSTAND the significance of being systematically of ALL their "marked" territories... OH the humiliation...
It needs to begin here. They are terrorist infrastructure and recruiting stations for murderous wahhibistic Islam.
America needs to come to grips with it and let our politicians KNOW we "get it" even if they don't... and the "soft on terror" democrats, and rinos... need to be turned out this election en masse...
If we don't speak, they won't listen; EVEN if more of our buildings are blown up and thousands slaughtered on our own soil by these animals... It's just not PC to kill the killers...
To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Are you a troll?
To: concerned about politics
Good point.
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09/24/2002 1:35:57 PM PDT
by
Illbay
To: swarthyguy
"Let's forget Sulayman al Faisal Al Lindh, Padilla, the Buffalo6 , and other plots that have certainly involved Americans like Ujaama and others that we probably do not know about. How about that Sheshani guy in Detroit."Right. How about Preston Lit, arrested for the Philly mailbox bombs?
To: Illbay
I'll have to rent Breaker Morant. Never seen it.
To: Robert_Paulson2
Hot dog! Let's fight hate with hate!
It's a h*ll of a lot quicker and more satisfying than Justice anyhow!
173
posted on
09/24/2002 1:38:37 PM PDT
by
Illbay
To: Illbay
"...No, my first thought is too make sure we've got the story straight before we start spouting the usual Islam-is-evil-we-hate-all-Muslims-kill-them-all-now screed....Perhaps you should brush up on your English grammar---specifically the use of the pronoun "we".
If you have a propensity to spout: "Islam-is-evil-I-hate-all-Muslims-kill-them-all-now" then feel free to confess this distateful fact---although most people are made uncomfortable by emotional public confessions of this sort.
But please don't use the word "we" when you mean "I"--OK?
To: Illbay
"You could also cite the domestic terrorism back during the 60s, perpetrated by SDS and similar groups."Ah, yes...I wasn't thinking back that far, LOL
To: bonesmccoy
SOME Americans who are muslim are not the enemy!
To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
If you don't understand the proper use of the word "we" in this context, then perhaps it is you who needs the brush-up.
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posted on
09/24/2002 1:40:50 PM PDT
by
Illbay
To: milestogo
To: Robert_Paulson2
I have no doubt of it. However, within limits we can make sure those who are the enemy feel our displeasure without inconveniencing those who are not.
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posted on
09/24/2002 1:42:21 PM PDT
by
Illbay
To: cake_crumb
Ahmad Sattar, Postmaster in NJ US CIT.
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