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1 posted on 09/24/2002 12:55:07 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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2 posted on 09/24/2002 12:55:52 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay
The best chess players in the world have never been female

Judit Polgar has been ranked around #20 in the FIDE list consistently for the past several years. When she became grandmaster, she was the youngest ever (male or female) to attain that title. Earlier this month she beat Garri Kasparov in the Russia vs. Rest of World match in Moscow.

In addition, she is supaliciously attractive and occasionally plays internet chess at kasparovchess,com, all the while talking a blue streak.

Maybe you can tell I'm a fan...

3 posted on 09/24/2002 1:10:49 AM PDT by tictoc
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Ah, the putrid odor of misogyny. The writer no doubt has a woman serving him in some capacity, who enables him to write such drivel without having to worry about shopping, the dishes or the laundry...a convenience familiar to all of the aforementioned famous males.
6 posted on 09/24/2002 1:33:35 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: RogerFGay

This could have been a stronger article. I think he leans too much on the comparison with Hitler and the Nazis. The sound of the axe grinding is louder than what he's saying.

Some of the stuff being peddled by the crazier feminists in this area -- logic and truth are tools of male oppression and need to be destroyed -- are just nuts. We don't need Nazis to poke holes in those people; it's as easy to hang them with their own nonsense.


10 posted on 09/24/2002 1:45:15 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: RogerFGay
If the guy is implying that the Nazis produced the VW bug, he's made a glaring factual error. The VW was a scam perpetrated on the German Worker; Put down your money in advance and when we build this wonderful car, you'll get one. But the Nazis never actually manufactured the VW in commercial quantities and never intended to. It was purely a bait and switch operation. Only after the war was the design was dusted off and the car manufactured.
13 posted on 09/24/2002 2:09:51 AM PDT by kms61
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15 posted on 09/24/2002 2:29:38 AM PDT by weikel
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I think you would like this article.
18 posted on 09/24/2002 2:33:12 AM PDT by weikel
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19 posted on 09/24/2002 2:42:43 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: RogerFGay
IMHO the undeniable difference between men and women re achievments in the sciences is not related to any difference in intelligence between them... indeed I think male and female intelligence is pretty much identical.

The difference is the very very strange way that some men are driven... For instance I know several guys that will stay up all night trying to bum a few instructions from an already short piece of assembly code....even though nobody else will care...they do it for bragging rights I think. I can't imagine where I could locate any women that would do this sort of thing...although I'm certain that a woman could.

History is full of stories about famous scientists single mindedly pursuing some obscure goal... forsaking nearly everything else in life in their quest... women simply don't do this... I don't know why. Is this a blessing or a curse? I can't decide :-)

But you gals out there can take heart... don't despair because women seem to be inferior in the sciences... I don't think it is due to a lack of ability... just a lack of that odd driving force (which sometimes leads men to ruin anyway)
23 posted on 09/24/2002 4:06:28 AM PDT by Bobalu
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The V-2 rocket was the first man-made object sent into outer space.

References? …. Documentation? Thanks in advance.

24 posted on 09/24/2002 4:09:36 AM PDT by bimbo
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30 posted on 09/24/2002 4:49:36 AM PDT by Jonah Hex
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To: RogerFGay
This is a weak article; it would help if the author discussed some of the evidence/effects of the "male science" bigotry that he claims.

Nevertheless, men utterly dominate the pinnacles of analytical achievement.

Ironically, he implicitly falls into an inaccurate cliche, i.e., men dominate the highest levels of analytical fields only. There are no female Van Goghs, Picassos or Vermeers; no Beethovens or Bachs; no Tolstois or Balzacs; and, as a friend of mine would say monotonously but effectively in any argument of this sort, all the best chefs are men. In the realm of outstanding achievement, men are better than women at everything, with scant exceptions.

32 posted on 09/24/2002 6:15:09 AM PDT by monkey
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Can anyone name any great female composers?

I have one: Cecile Chaminade.

Any more?

Great female scientists: Marie Curie. Name three more of Nobel Quality.

Great female mathematicians: Sophie Germain. Name three more.

--Boris

44 posted on 09/24/2002 9:27:13 AM PDT by boris
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To: RogerFGay
Womenists engage in the same sort of madness. Men have traditionally done very well in higher mathematics, physics, chemistry and a number of other physical sciences. Men, in fact, have produced many more of the greatest minds in these areas than women have.

In these areas? Looking at the time since Socrates, in what areas have women had the greatest minds? Perhaps it has something to do with how a society creates great minds.
57 posted on 09/24/2002 10:43:43 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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This has not kept women from also being great physicists, like Madame Curie

She was no great scientist; as a student of Antoine Henri Becquerel, her greatest contribution to the discovery of Radium was to stand waist-deep in the peat-muck and shovel it into vessels for analysis, alongside her husband, a scientist in his own right who later died while walking in horse-drawn traffic on the streets of Paris, having been rundown in midstride.

The Prize was awarded to all three, hers as a sop to the feminists of her day.

67 posted on 09/24/2002 12:20:54 PM PDT by Old Professer
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I agree, individuals like Alber Einstein possesed a great genius combined with great wisdom and great humilty which are at odds with the arrogance and pomposity of the author of the subject article. To wit:

"Desire for approval and recognition is a healthy motive, but the desire to be acknowledged as better, stronger or more intelligent than a fellow being or fellow scholar easily leads to an excessively egoistic psychological adjustment, which may become injurious for the individual and for the community. " ___ A. Einstein

"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as judge in the field of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods." ___ A. Einstein

"We should take care not to make the intellect our god."___ A. Einstein

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." ___ A. Einstein

"I believe in standardizing automobiles, not human beings." ___ A. Einstein

Of course, Einstein as a German Jewish immigrant was supremely aware of the frailty of human nature in assigning arbitrary value to people based on attributes of their birth. Judging from his writings, he was also, apparently aware of the vastness of human capacities of endeavor and spirit, and in fact he was in awe of such vastness. He was also much aware of how "knowledge" is often subsumed by evil intentions. Somehow I doubt such an intelligent person as Einstein would crow about the supposed superiorty of the "male mind" (or any other mind). He was wiser than that.

95 posted on 09/25/2002 1:12:08 PM PDT by Lorianne
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