Posted on 09/21/2002 11:39:06 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
He's the only real North Carolinian between the two major contenders.
Have a problem with that? Blame Bush and the rest of the GOP powermongers.
Free Republic is becoming as much an extremist fringe group as is Democratic Underground, courtesy of the Hyper-Republicans on board.
And we're becoming worse than the Clintonistas ever were!! Those idiots worshipped Clinton as if he were God on earth. How the hell can we say we're any different than they when the Bush-bots fawn and swoon at the feet of King Dubya? We poked so much fun at the Clintonites, and less than two years later we've become just like them.
Restore freedom in America: vote out the Republi-Crats!!!
I've been around internet message boards for quite some time, and you're statement is absurd.
Try having a debate on salon's Table Talk and get back to me.
Sure, there are a fair number of rabid Bush types here. But no where else will you find the kind of give and take as you will here.
Zell is only out for one person, and that's Zell. I lived in Georgia while he was Governor; they didn't call him Zig-Zag-Zell for nothing.
FYI... Despite all his demonstrated independence, Zell is still good friends with BillyJeff. Nuff said.
Live with it. Accept the fact that humans are imperfect. Recognize that things aren't neat and tidy in the real world. Take a deep breath and exhale slowly.
Now I'm gonna say this in words of one syllable or less so you cannot misunderstand. "Politics is the art of the possible." You never get perfection. So, if that's what you want, go live in a cave and stop wasting bandwidth.
If you want to have a say in the final process, that is what happens after they (whoever they turn out to be) get elected, you must participate. And that means, are you ready for this, choosing the better of two leading candidates when you have some doubts about both of them.
Either do that, or quit bitching about the results. Because if you don't do that, you are irrelevant to the final outcome. Choose to be irrelevant if you wish; that is your right. But then don't compain about your irrelevance because you asked for it.
Is that clear enough for you?
I'm doing the best I can to make things better. Click any link below for proof. Are you?
Congressman Billybob
Click for "Til Death Do Us Part."
Remember the Capra/Stewart classic, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington? Well there is no sequel, Mr. Smith Serves His Fourth Term, because by then Mr. Smith has had all the idealism and integrity squeezed out of him like a tube of toothpaste under a steam roller.
Want a one-page picture of the problem? Click the first link, below, go to the cover story, and then click up the replacement "Table 1." There's the story of incumbent dominance on just one page. I hope it scares you. I hope it scares you into action.
Congressman Billybob
Click for "Til Death Do Us Part."
Billybob
Usually when I mention Term Limits here on FR. Someone hands me my head on a platter.
When everything is reduced to its lowest form, in my opinion, it is either term limits now or revolution later. Barring that, there is nothing to stop our slide into the worst kind of socialism. Those that honestly believe that they can stop this slide into socialism via the ballot box are deluding themselves.
FDR found out that one could buy power via the Federal treasury. Since then the professional politicians of both parties have taken a deathgrip on power. It is indeed shameful that we have people dying of old age in office. That is an indictment of the voters.
You go about patting yourself on the back and tell yourself that you have really tried. BS, you have aided and abetted these petty politicians while they raped and pillaged our country. You are doing it now when you rush to protect the republican party and GWB. Have you ever stood up and said, this candidate is not good enough. No you haven't. You talk of being irelevent, you are and have been nothing more than a Judas goat, leading the sheeple to slaughter.
You set your sights too low and you posture about while trying to rationalize your loss of principles. You cast stones at people who won't bend before the republican banner and cajole people for putting principles before party. Do you really believe that there is an ounce of difference between the republican party and the democrat party? Look where we are today and tell me how much better we are than we were 10 years ago and where the republicans have made a difference in that last 8 years. The republicans didn't even have the courage to remove a criminal from the office of the presidency. Just politics I guess.
The election of 2000 brought a supposedly honest administration to the executive branch. The first thing that GWB did was to ignore the vandalization of the White House. The next thing GWB did was to stop all investigation of the Clinton administration, probably the most corrupt administration in the history of this country. Why? Because it was politically expedient. That means he didn't want to do anything to hurt his chances for re-election. So much for honor and integrity. The Bush administration is presently engaged in a war on terriorism, but Bush himself will not allow the borders of this country to be closed. Why? You know why, he wants to gain as many legal and illegal mexican votes as he can in 2002, and 2004. Let's destroy the culture of this country so we can get re-elected. Great political philosophy.
Now let me tell you something sonny. As long as you and people like you continue to accept the lesser of two evils to run this country, this country will continue on its morally bankrupt path. One day, one of your lesser of two evils will decide to make him/herself dictator of America. And we will have you to thank for it.
Is that clear enough for you.
I was General Counsel to Eugene McCarthy when he ran as an independent for President in 1976. You can look that up in the American Bar Association Journal, August, 1977. I was legal advisor to John Anderson when he did the same thing in 1980. You can look that up through footnote 14 in Anderson v. Celebrezze in the Supreme Court, in 1983.
Like I say, I do what I can. You, "sonny," are a useless blowhard who assumes things that are false.
Billybob
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