***The Giza Power Plant: What Was Behind The Door***

Stardate: 0209.21

[The Wizard]

For those of you who just can't stomach the nonsense they try to tell us about the Great Pyramid, welcome home. If I had my way every child in school would have to learn what Chris Dunn teaches us about the world; yes, that's right, about the world.

The lesson is more profound than the Great Pyramid, because it shows us 4 disturbing things, conculsively:
1. We've been lied too for decades about what happened in Egypt, the tools they had and how they accomplished the many things they did
2. That a great civilization existed and has since perished, and that we need to be careful about what we accept as fact: common sense HAS value.
3. That we have yet to reach a technology that was once possesed here on earth thousands of years ago.
4. That many things told to us as facts, are not.

This is a tremendous book, and I wish I had the ability to put it on TV at 8 pm at night and draw the attention to it that it needs, because mankind will take a giant leap forward when that finally happens.

[The Wizard]

you have an amazing limitation for understanding things, read the book then comment.

It was never a tomb

[The Wizard]

this is an incredibly sad post.....It's not my job to read you the book, I only state that I belive what Chris Dunn has written, but at least I've taken the time to read it before I spout....

This will be my last response to you.

[justshutupandtakeit]

There is not one shred of proof that the Great Pyramid was ever a tomb. Of all the things it is it was never that. Pharoahs were buried in the Valley of the Kings. The placement and diminisions of the GP indicate that it was a mathematical symbol from which Py could be calculated as well as many other things.

When the Arabs first entered it by breaking through the side it was the first time it had been entered in the historical record. They found nothing to indicate that it was a tomb or had ever contained a body. This was a bitter disappointment for they expected to find riches.

You apparently know nothing about the Great Pyramid but that doesn't stop you from talking about it. It is nothing like the others in quality of workmanship and is more correctly placed wrt to NSEW orientation than we can build a building of that size today.

[MHGinTN]

Uh, isn't there a big five-sided box in the King's chamber? And isn't it said to have been drilled from a solid stone (hard on at that!)? And is it possible that the Egyptians, with the controlling paranoia of a priestly caste, knew how to make a form of cement from blocks quarried across the river? And isn't ... oh, what's the use. Preconcieved notions and dull bias prevent people from looking at other possibilities. [P.S. I've corresponded with Dunn; he's no kook, and he's very interesting to communicate with, not boxed in by biased science yet willing to do the science work to prove or disprove. As a fellow writer, I can attest to the fact that sensationalism sells to the unwashed masses, and it isn't all bad to ferry a few new ideas along the waves of wild speculation. Incidentally, the ground up stones would have ferried easily along the roadbed that leads from the river to the plateau ... just a hint that one ought to look further before throwing out the whole bath tub.]

[VaBthang4]

You are just plain wrong to point out a fact about Mr. Noone.

YOU PEOPLE ARE SO INTOLERANT OF MORONIC ASSERTIONS!

Why cant we have an Egypt incapable of extending its permanent grasp past the Nile all the while having a great and mysterious source of limited power hidden inside a stone pyramid built by Hebrew slave labor that obviously didnt have access to this source of power...cause if they did, they would've used it to build the Pyramid...hey...what came first? The Chicken or the Egg?

Anyway where was I...

[uglybiker]

[Victoria_R]

This is who we were made after:

Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make a man--someone like ourselves, to be the master of all life upon the earth and in the skies and in the seas."

"Then God said, 'Let us [...]'"

Us? Who is "us"?

[uglybiker]

...there were NEVER any bodies found inside the great pyramid....NEVER, not one

They all left on their own!

[Ready2go]

Hi Victoria_R

John 1:1 Before anything else existed, there was Christ, with God.

John 1:2 He has always been alive and is himself God.

John 1:3 He created everything there is--nothing exists that he didn't make.

John 1:4 Eternal life is in him, and this life gives light to all mankind.

John 1:5 His life is the light that shines through the darkness--and the darkness can never extinguish it.

John 1:6 God sent John the Baptist as a witness to the fact that Jesus Christ is the true Light.

John 1:8 John himself was not the Light; he was only a witness to identify it.

John 1:9 Later on, the one who is the true Light arrived to shine on everyone coming into the world.

John 1:10 But although he made the world, the world didn't recognize him when he came.

John 1:11 Even in his own land and among his own people, the Jews, he was not accepted. Only a few would welcome and receive him.

John 1:12 But to all who received him, he gave the right to become children of God. All they needed to do was to trust him to save them.

John 1:13 All those who believe this are reborn!--not a physical rebirth resulting from human passion or plan--but from the will of God.

John 1:14 And Christ became a human being and lived here on earth among us and was full of loving forgiveness and truth. And some of us have seen his glory--the glory of the only Son of the heavenly Father!

[discostu]

PROOF. Show proof. Bring proof. Stop making stupid assertions and back them up with FACTS. The sadness is you. The fact that you post a picture of an empty wall then have the audacity to be insulted when you're the only one that thinks it's a power plant, that's sad. Bring proof or stop wasting band width. You're worse than the crop circle jerks.

[discostu]

Better learn to spell. The words are "dimensions" and "pi". I'm not sure which is more pathetic, the fact that you think you can calculate pi from a pyramid, or that you think it's interesting. Wanna calculate pi? Draw a circle, figure out the ratio of the circumference to the diameter, that's pi. Whooptee-freaking-do.

What about the glyphs in the wall showing the detailed burial and mumification procedures? What about the FACT that all the other pyramids were used as tombs? What about all the other glyphs recording Egyptian history and showing that they used pyramids, including the Giza Pyramids (there's more than one you know... actually you probably didn't but now you do) were used as tombs? None of that is proof?! Of course you guys have YET to show one DROP of proof that they were power plants. Again I ask the same questions: what kind of power plants, how did the work, where did the supply power to, what did they supply power to? PROOF, find some.

I apparently know a hell of a lot more about just about everything than you. And what in blazes in "correctly placed wrt to NSEW"? And before you go off on some BS tangent about "true north" you'd better do some more research. There is no such thing as true north. Magnetic north and rotational north are NOT in the same place (and neither matches up to lattitudinal north, and all 3 blow it on solar north, which doesn't match galactic north... sucks to be you). So there goes THAT theory. You guys got nothing. None of your assertions are backed up in any possible way.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Lets stick to the facts of what I have said and not make up things, O.K.?

I never claimed that the GP was a power plant.
I never said anything about the other pyramids.
I never said it wasn't easy to calculate pi with a circle and string.
How many 450+ foot buildings can be used to calculate pi? Or that accomplish what is called "squaring the circle" in geometry?

There were no hieroglypics in the Great Pyramid that I can recall reading about.

There were no burials in the Great Pyramid.

There are several NSEW orientations for sure but that doesn't stop us from using one to orient buildings etc. One of them is used to site the pyramid. If you care which check Piazza Smith, the Astronomer Royal of Scotland.

The entire Giza complex is sited to represent a constellation.

[discostu]

I'd love to just stick to the facts, unfortunately this thread was started by mislabeled science fiction sans facts. The original poster says it's a power plant, I said it's clearly not, you attacked me. Seems pretty natural that you'd be defending his position. Since apparantly you have your OWN crackpot theory do tell. Of course that's requiring you to violate your own request since you'll be making things up.

Who cares what buildings you can calculate pi with? Like I said, you can do it with pen and paper, the "fact" that you can apparently do it with the Great Pyramid of Giza is completely meaningless and uninteresting. Feces occurs.

YOU say there were no burials in the pyramid in question. Egyptian history says otherwise. I beleive them.

Why should I research YOUR foolish assertions? You're making the assertions YOU provide the proof. Do your own research. Which one does the pyramid supposedly line up on? Which one do building in America supposedly line up on (I'll give you the answer to that one... NONE, we just lay out our grid by the surrounding territory and build)? Of course then you have another problem, since our building are lined up (on each local grid, not on any of the norths) to the best of our ability to measure just how exactly do you measure that the pyramids are better lined up than we can do? You can't. If we could measure that precise we'd build that precise, since according to you we don't build that precise then ipso facto we CANNOT measure that precise and therefor we cannot know the pyramids are built to a higher level of precision.

Oh great now you throw in more silly garbage. Which constellation? Does it match the constellation now or when the pyramid was built (yes the constellations don't remain constant due to many many reasons that are painfully obvious, they still maintain their general shape, but not exact positions)? And why does it matter, people could see the stars then, the pyramids were built in the time period when many of the constellations were getting their names, why WOULDN'T Egyptians (who were big into celestial bodies) lay stuff out to match the stars? The stars were home to some gods, the Pharoahs were gods, seems like a pretty natural match to me.

Facts people. You woovie groovies are big in goofball assertions but the closest you can come to actually laying down facts is telling me which chuckle head to look up. Gimme sited quotes, lay out ACTUAL facts. Not gibberjabber from people that hang out with clowns that think the world ended 2 years ago, FACTS.

[rightofrush]

I appreciate your bravery in posting. If you didn't know beforehand, you surely know now that any deviation from established orthodoxy is met with derision by those whose wisdom is more in their posterior than in their anterior.

For those in the "tinfoil alert" brigade, find out a little more about the Giza pyramid before being a wise ass.

[RightWhale]

Looks like a block of closed-pore foam plastic.

[rightofrush]

What about the glyphs in the wall showing the detailed burial and mumification procedures? What about the FACT that all the other pyramids were used as tombs? What about all the other glyphs recording Egyptian history and showing that they used pyramids, including the Giza Pyramids (there's more than one you know... actually you probably didn't but now you do) were used as tombs? None of that is proof?!

Thank you for this post. It confirms that that you have no idea of what you're bitching about.

[discostu]

Oh you guys are so cute. Notice that those of us that KNOW it's a tomb are the only ones postiung FACTS. All you woovie groovies post is BS and insults. GOT FACTS? POST 'EM! Got moronic insults? Keep 'em to yourself.

[js1138]

Medved, is that you???

[discostu]

you guys are so cute when you stick together. The guy posts what ammounts to ad copy for a book, for his supporting evidence he gives us a picture of a blank wall, when requested to present sited facts he tells us to go buy the book... and WE'RE the ones being unreasonable.

It's not a matter of established orthodoxy, it's a matter of following the standard practices of logical discourse: if you got facts post 'em, if you don't hush up. Apparently he has no facts, he should never have put up the thread in the first place.

[justshutupandtakeit]

As anyone who can read would have noticed with my first post I never referrenced your comments about power stations nor did I claim the writer was correct. I responded to your warrantless comment that the GP was a tomb. NO ONE has ever shown any evidence that it was a tomb. Let me know of any evidence (other than Herodetous' statement. He also claimed it was paid for by the Pharoah's daughter prostituting herself.) that Eygptologists have of it being a tomb.

The Egyptians didn't have a ball point pen handy so they created the Pyramid to calculate pi with. But to you that is "meaningless" even though pi was never calculated by anyone else for at least 2000 yrs. LoL. Those strobelights must have affected your brain.

Not only was the GP aligned that precisely, the seams of the blocks are tighter than today's standards. All in all it was an incredible structure and fully deserved being the greatest wonder of the world. Another little interesting tidbit is the existence of air channels from the King's Chamber all the way to the outside. These are smooth rectangular channels with the outside end blocked. How they could have been laid in is a real mystery.

It also was the highest structure ever built until the mid 1800s brought us the Eiffel Tower.

Orion's Belt.

As I mentioned if you want to learn a little something about the GP read some of Piazza Smith's work.