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BREAKING: Sudanese air force pilot in custody?
CNN Radio News update. ^

Posted on 09/20/2002 8:11:55 AM PDT by McGruff

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To: mhking
"So does that mean that we were nuts when X42 was in office?

Yes, because we allowed the scumbag to get elected. We should have run a grassroots campaign to make sure he was not. I blame myself as much as anyone else for his election. Having said that, I will make it my lot in life to see that his kind do not get elected again. Although with the way politicians are trying to give amnesty to illegals, we may not have a prayer unless we make sure it does not happen.

61 posted on 09/20/2002 8:58:54 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican
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To: EggsAckley
Glad you asked. I used to be a proud Canadian, when we had a country to be proud of, when we had armed forces that actually helped to defend the free world AND North America. When we had a thinking, working electorate who couldn't be bought by cheap promises, I was proud. When we had a population that could be counted on to uphold the principles of freedom and individual rights the west was founded on, I was proud.

This nation has been feminized, socialized, taxed to death, propagandized, immigrationized, and gelded. It is no longer a nation of proud people, just a bunch of ninnies looking for another government cheque in the mail.

So why don't I move to the US? Several reasons. The IRS is one. Very, very nasty people from what I hear. Our taxes are higher but the collection techniques are much more humane. Believe it or not there is a far greater measure of personal freedom in Canada, it isn't written down, but it is practised. In the US there is a greater amount of freedom written in your constitution, but it isn't practised.

I have to get off my soap box, I'm going to the States this afternoon for some high school football.

62 posted on 09/20/2002 8:59:45 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: mhking
MMMMMMmmmm.....noodle soup...
63 posted on 09/20/2002 9:00:57 AM PDT by TheLurkerX
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
No wonder they put live anit-aircraft missles in DC
64 posted on 09/20/2002 9:02:03 AM PDT by newsperson999
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To: mitchbert
You noticed too? :)
65 posted on 09/20/2002 9:02:49 AM PDT by xp38
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To: McGruff

BLAME CANADA!

66 posted on 09/20/2002 9:03:59 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: JustAnAmerican
Yes, because we allowed the scumbag to get elected.

Wrong answer. I can't think of a single person here who "allowed" x42 to get elected.

Do we make a difference? Absolutely. But when candidates that we support aren't elected (or more accurately, when morons are elected), we cannot shoulder the blame for their election. We have to work harder to prevent them from being reelected. But that means working to inform and change the minds of the more easily influenced, not shouldering the blame for morons who are in office.

67 posted on 09/20/2002 9:04:07 AM PDT by mhking
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To: r9etb
Post #17. I think you are on to something. My bet is that he entered the US at Detroit, but his hijack crew is experiencing a little grounding just now.
68 posted on 09/20/2002 9:05:54 AM PDT by billhilly
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Administration official: Several Sudanese citizens detained in anti-terrorism investigation

Friday, September 20, 2002
©2002 Associated Press

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/09/20/national1154EDT0569.DTL

(09-20) 08:54 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --  Federal law enforcement authorities have detained several Sudanese citizens as part of the government's anti-terrorism investigation, an administration official said Friday.

The official said the Sudanese suspects were being questioned at an undisclosed location. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, disputed a published report that the FBI and CIA are searching for a Sudanese air force pilot who entered Canada with plans to fly a hijacked airliner into the White House.

"There is no one at large who's going to fly a plane into the White House," this official said.

"The federal government has taken into custody over the last several weeks numerous individuals -- as exampled by the case in Buffalo, N.Y. -- that include several Sudanese who are being questioned. There is no evidence that any of these suspects had any kind of plot against the White House." The official was referring to the arrest last week of six western New York men accused of running a terrorist cell.

Citing unnamed intelligence sources, The Washington Times said the pilot was trained in Afghanistan and is linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, asked about the Times report, seemed to play down its credibility.

"There are a variety of threats -- some have more credibility, some have less -- I'm not in a position from this podium to give you any indications about anything that may deal with intelligence or potential threats. I'll just leave it at that," Fleischer said.

Spokesmen for the CIA and FBI declined to comment.

Officials believe the White House and the Capitol were potential targets on Sept. 11 when terrorists flew jetliners into New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Bin Laden was based in Sudan until 1996, when he was expelled from the country and moved his terrorist training operation to Afghanistan, where he was welcomed by the Taliban.

Al-Qaida reportedly is decentralizing its leadership, and as many as 60 cells are said to have the authority to conduct terror attacks.

69 posted on 09/20/2002 9:07:20 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"Didn't you get the memo (not to mention the TPS reports)?"

Yeah, so we'll get you another copy of that memo, mmmmmmkay?

70 posted on 09/20/2002 9:08:37 AM PDT by The G Man
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To: egarvue
Because the good Canadian people are cursed with an extreme Leftist government and a socialist boob as their leader.

Good answer. Time they uncurse themselves.

71 posted on 09/20/2002 9:10:50 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: McGruff
Send him back home to his President.

From 50,000 feet.

72 posted on 09/20/2002 9:11:25 AM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The FBI and CIA are searching for a Sudanese air force pilot who reportedly has entered Canada and plans to hijack an airliner and fly it into the White House,

This report is not complete without the following:

...but will not succeed as he will be subdued by freaking passengers and be beaten to death with fists, shoes and airline food dinner rolls. On the off chance he escapes the passengers, he will actually fly the plane into a substantial number of ground-to-air and air-to-air missiles and ultimately "fly" the plane into the ground somewhere in Southern Maryland.

73 posted on 09/20/2002 9:13:37 AM PDT by Pete
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To: The G Man
LOL! Thanks for the Office Space post. This is the perfect place to insert these gems!! Made my morning. I had to go and buy a copy of the movie after seeing some of the clips posted on the web.
74 posted on 09/20/2002 9:15:23 AM PDT by txzman
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To: All
Sudan Pilot in Custody for Hijacking Plan
Friday, September 20, 2002

Fox News

NEW YORK — A Sudanese air force pilot who planned to hijack an airliner and smash it into the White House has been taken into custody, U.S. government sources told Fox News on Friday.

The pilot has ties to Al Qaeda and was trained in a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan, sources said.

The Washington Times reported Friday that U.S. intelligence agencies were looking for a missing Sudanese air force pilot who they believed was planning to hijack an airliner and fly it into the White House. An intelligence report, sent to U.S. lawmakers last week, reportedly said the pilot had entered Canada last week and was preparing for the attack.

But the Times reported that Canadian authorities had no records indicating the pilot had entered the country.

Sudan is on the U.S. State Department's list of seven state sponsors of terrorism, along with Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea and Syria.

"International terrorist organizations with Islamic ties, including al-Qaida and Lebanese Hizballah, have a presence in Africa and continue to exploit Africa's permissive operating environment -- porous borders, conflict, lax financial systems, and the wide availability of weapons -- to expand and strengthen their networks," says a State Department terrorism report released in May.

"Further, these groups are able to flourish in 'failed states' or those with weak governments that are unable to monitor the activities of terrorists and their supporters within their borders."

The State Department report says that of the seven identified terrorist sponsors, Sudan and Libya have made the most strides in trying to get out of the terrorism business.

Sudan's capital, Khartoum, condemned the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and pledged to cooperate with the United States in fighting terrorism. Sudanese authorities have investigated and apprehended extremists suspected of involvement in terrorist activities.

In late September 2001, the United Nations recognized Sudan's actions by removing U.N. sanctions.

However, "a number of international terrorist groups including al-Qaida, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Egyptian al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, the Palestine Islamic Jihad, and HAMAS continued to use Sudan as a safe-haven, primarily for conducting logistics and other support activities," the State report says. "Press speculation about the extent of Sudan's cooperation with the United States probably has led some terrorist elements to depart the country."

The United States still has sanctions against Sudan.

Fox News' Carl Cameron and Liza Porteus contributed to this report.

75 posted on 09/20/2002 9:19:18 AM PDT by McGruff
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76 posted on 09/20/2002 9:21:06 AM PDT by x-navy seal
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I, for one, extend my sympathy. I have also been around long enough to understand that Canadians have stood shoulder to shoulder with our military.

We should be expressing our sorrow that our neighbor to the north had the same misfortune, politically, as we did.
77 posted on 09/20/2002 9:21:45 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: Pete
"...but will not succeed as he will be subdued by freaking passengers and be beaten to death with fists, shoes and airline food dinner rolls. On the off chance he escapes the passengers, he will actually fly the plane into a substantial number of ground-to-air and air-to-air missiles and ultimately "fly" the plane into the ground somewhere in Southern Maryland."

I can picture this. I will be on an airliner next week (every day for work). You can rest assured that if any person of the Islamic persuasion is to do anything that would suggest terrorism, I will dismember him/her and feed him/her to him/herself. This includes taking actions that will transform a "him" into a "her".

78 posted on 09/20/2002 9:43:42 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot
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To: All
Well, according to the FBI, there is no Sudanese pilot on the lose, it is a false story... but continue the Canada bashing, forget actual facts.


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal law enforcement authorities have detained several Sudanese citizens as part of the government's anti-terrorism investigation, an administration official said Friday.

The official said the Sudanese suspects were being questioned at an undisclosed location. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, disputed a published report that the FBI and CIA are searching for a Sudanese air force pilot who entered Canada with plans to fly a hijacked airliner into the White House.

"There is no one at large who's going to fly a plane into the White House," this official said.

"The federal government has taken into custody over the last several weeks numerous individuals -- as exampled by the case in Buffalo, N.Y. -- that include several Sudanese who are being questioned. There is no evidence that any of these suspects had any kind of plot against the White House." The official was referring to the arrest last week of six western New York men accused of running a terrorist cell.

Citing unnamed intelligence sources, The Washington Times said the pilot was trained in Afghanistan and is linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, asked about the Times report, seemed to play down its credibility.

"There are a variety of threats -- some have more credibility, some have less -- I'm not in a position from this podium to give you any indications about anything that may deal with intelligence or potential threats. I'll just leave it at that," Fleischer said.

Spokesmen for the CIA and FBI declined to comment.

Officials believe the White House and the Capitol were potential targets on Sept. 11 when terrorists flew jetliners into New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Bin Laden was based in Sudan until 1996, when he was expelled from the country and moved his terrorist training operation to Afghanistan, where he was welcomed by the Taliban.

Al-Qaida reportedly is decentralizing its leadership, and as many as 60 cells are said to have the authority to conduct terror attacks.

79 posted on 09/20/2002 9:51:31 AM PDT by freeasinbeer
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To: mass55th
Can we bomb the Baldwin brothers again? Pleeeassse? ROTFLMAO!
80 posted on 09/20/2002 9:54:48 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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