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Saddam is warned: We'd nuke Baghdad
The Online Sun ^ | 09/19/02 | Trevor Kavanagh

Posted on 09/19/2002 8:46:50 AM PDT by Heartlander2

Saddam is warned: We'd nuke Baghdad

By TREVOR KAVANAGH

AMERICA will NUKE Baghdad if Saddam Hussein dares unleash weapons of mass destruction, it emerged last night.

The chilling warning to Iraq was revealed by former Tory Premier John Major, who led Britain in the 1991 Gulf War.

During that conflict, allied forces were armed with “battlefield” nuclear weapons and prepared to use them in a counter attack, he said.

Saddam was privately warned his capital would be obliterated if he used weapons of mass destruction against allied troops or Middle East targets — including Israel.

And senior security sources last night confirmed Saddam has been warned AGAIN of the consequences if he breaks the ban on using terror weapons.

Mr Major wrote of the Gulf War: “In private, Saddam Hussein received an unmistakable warning about the immediate and catastrophic consequences for Iraq of any such attack on civilians.

“I knew that if he did use these diabolical weapons we would have to escalate our response to bring the war to a speedy and conclusive end before too many of our troops were exposed to them.” Mr Major yesterday supported renewed action but raised questions about the way a cornered Saddam might lash out.

He said: “On this occasion we will specifically be going to war in order to replace the Iraqi regime. Saddam will be gone.

“He will be dead, he will be in prison, or he will be in exile. Would he try to create maximum chaos? Would he seek to use weapons of mass destruction?

“Would he use them on oil fields in the Middle East to create economic chaos? Would he pass them to terrorist groups, would he — perhaps the worst nightmare of all — try to use them on an adjacent capital?

“We can largely protect against that, do not press me on how, we can protect against that.”

Saddam targeted Jerusalem with 39 Scud missiles in 1991 — killing two and injuring hundreds — in an attempt to drag Israel into the fighting.

He had chemical and biological warheads too but chose not to use them in the face of America’s warning.

Yesterday Israeli forces moved Patriot missile launchers — which take out incoming rockets — into position in case Saddam targets them again.

Pressure was building on Iraq as a British ex-UN official warned that sending in weapons inspectors is a “no-win” move because Saddam would hide his arsenal.

Tim Trevan, an expert on biological weapons, said: “I don’t think sending in weapons inspectors is a good idea, but it may be a necessary thing to do because of the political situation.

“We know he had anthrax and botulinum toxin and we know he had nerve gases.

“We never found all his equipment and he’s had four years to build new production facilities underground. The job of finding them would be nigh on impossible.”


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To: CIB-173RDABN
Is it your belief that WWIII will never take place?

I don't profess to believe anything of the kind, either way.

It is not predestined, if that's your implication.

If we took a poll, how many FReepers do you think would agree with the proposition that Saddam Hussein must be taken out even if it meant going to war against Islam?

Remember, our erstwhile ally, Pakistan, is both an Islamic state and a nuclear power, with delivery vehicles.

Terrorist attacks are terrible, no question. The perps of 9/11 and the suicide bombers in Israel and their masters need to be rounded up and shot.

But launching a nuclear war is an order of magnitude more serious, with consequences no one here can imagine. That's why I get particularly irate when posters flippantly suggest turning Baghdad into glass or dropping a neutron bomb on Mecca.

Such talk is not only pre-adolescent and hate-filled, it is downright dangerous. The fact that John Major goes way out on a limb in making threats he can't carry out is lamentable, but when Americans advocate extermination of Islam as if it were vermin, as I've seen too often on these threads, how do you think the rest of the world is going to react? Is it any wonder that Bush gets a cool reception for his plans to effect a "regime change" in Iraq when we have so many loose cannons wanting to continue the war even further?

61 posted on 09/19/2002 2:02:13 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u
You must mistake me for some long-haired-hippy-type-pinko-fag if you think I want the war to be contained, or to serve as some sort of empty vengence for 9/11.

I want to see real nukes taking out real enemies of the US. That includes kyoto signatories as well. Iraq is small change, in my book, and not worthy of any more than a fraction of our current arsenal.

62 posted on 09/19/2002 3:08:09 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: logician2u
Yours was a non-answer, but it will have to do.
63 posted on 09/19/2002 3:24:56 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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Sorry to disappoint you, but beliefs have no effect on reality. No one can see into the future. We only fool ourselves if we think we can, as the equation is too complex with too many variables and unknowns to solve for.

Our best course is to learn from the past, and the record for previous empires is not exactly stellar. Maybe we'll be an exception.

(See post #62 for an example of what I just warned about above.)

64 posted on 09/19/2002 3:47:43 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: Heartlander2
,i>The chilling warning to Iraq was revealed by former Tory Premier John Major, who led Britain in the 1991 Gulf War.

give me a break. since when is john major now an expert on our present day military strategy? Not that i have any problem with nuking Bagdad, but I'll believe it when it comes from Rummy or W.

65 posted on 09/19/2002 3:49:15 PM PDT by lawgirl
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To: alloysteel
... as the Tigris and Euphrates rivers drain into and fill the basin.

Dead Sea East

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66 posted on 09/19/2002 3:53:29 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: princess leah
oops, shoulda read down further ...

67 posted on 09/19/2002 3:54:47 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: chookter
In case you ain't noticed, Sherlock, WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN ATTACKED!

My apologies for missing your post earlier.

In answer to your news flash, "we" have also attacked the following countries over the past several years:

None of these sovereign nations have mounted an attack on the United States, either before or after our air strikes and/or ground attacks.

Afghanistan was targeted for regime change owing to the Taliban being kissing cousins to bin Laden and Al Qeda, not because we had any proof of the Afghan government, such as it was, being involved in the attacks of 9/11. As far as harboring terrorists, Syria and Iran would rank farther up the list, wouldn't you say, than Iraq?

Are we willing to press our luck with an all-out attack on Iraq, possibly escalating to the rest of the Arab world, possibly going nuclear, on the basis of such flimsy evidence as has been presented to date that Saddam Hussein aspires to build weapons of mass destruction, etc.?

68 posted on 09/19/2002 4:03:46 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u
"...Otherwise, we may find ourselves with few friends and many enemies. "

Well, it's that way now. Who cares. It's lonely at the top.

69 posted on 09/19/2002 5:00:32 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: logician2u
I really don't care much about the rest of the world, except those who love Freedom, and are willing to lay their lives on the line to get it.

Them, we will help.

The rest, let them espouse whatever plattitudes they will. I have no respect for them, anyway.
70 posted on 09/19/2002 5:02:49 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: logician2u
Get them before they get us?

I thought they already GOT US... or is there a number higher than 3000 that needs die before we actually DO SOMETHING!! We didn't ask for this, or start it.
71 posted on 09/19/2002 5:11:52 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: logician2u
We don't want to continue the war even further. Muslim militants all over the world have the ultimate goal of world domination. That is their stated goal and we have to be prepared to take any action we need to in order to stop them. Ultimately that may include using nuclear weapons if, in the name of the Islamic Nation, the militant Muslim vanguard escalates their holy war and use weapons of mass destruction against us and the rest of the non-Muslim world.
72 posted on 09/19/2002 5:23:32 PM PDT by GHOST WRITER
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To: logician2u
So exactly WHO do you want controlling everything? All those countries you named, is there a leader in one of those countries you want to hand super power status to? Law of nature ...there will always be someone at the top and someone who has more power, there is no equality, can't be, never has been, never will be. Men are to greedy. I think I choose the United States....good grief everyone wants to live here, because regardless of our faults and shortcomings we are still a better choice than anywhere else, why don't they just make their countries like ours!! Everyone of those countries you named would love to have the power the U.S. has what do you think they would do with it? Doubt you would last long.
73 posted on 09/19/2002 5:28:04 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: logician2u
Are we willing to press our luck with an all-out attack on Iraq, possibly escalating to the rest of the Arab world, possibly going nuclear, on the basis of such flimsy evidence as has been presented to date that Saddam Hussein aspires to build weapons of mass destruction, etc.?

It certainly beats the alternative, no?

The arab world already hates us over our support for Israel. We are unwilling to stand by and watch Israel die.

The rest of the pissant world has not supported us since 1945. We have already used nukes twice in battle.

We have absolutely nothing to lose and our national security to gain.

74 posted on 09/19/2002 8:43:32 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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bttt
75 posted on 09/20/2002 4:45:21 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: patriotUSA
Please enlighten us as to just when we passed from being a Constitutional Republic to World Empire. I missed the transition. Also, I may have misunderstood, but I thought we hired Dubya to be President of these United States, not Emperor. Your rhetoric is far more reminiscent of the old British Empire than of the United States of America.

As to what I would do... I've said that before... offer a bounty on Saddam Insane's head... and the same on any successor who does not dismantle the WMD programs. Payable to anyone who brings his head in for DNA testing.
76 posted on 09/20/2002 4:58:40 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
Not a world empire, but a father figure. We need to treat the rest of world like children, and make them behave.

As for requesting a bloddy head be brought to us, isn't that a little olde worldish?

77 posted on 09/25/2002 2:23:10 PM PDT by patriotUSA
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To: patriotUSA
You've been reading too much Kipling, I see. The "White Man's Burden?" Nope... Not this country. Kipling is good but he was a true son of his empire.

Stick to being a Constitutional Republic and let the rest of the world go their own way as long as they leave us alone. Besides, if we treat them like children we have to support them. If you wanna do that, do it your damn self and leave my country out of it. These United States are NOT papa to the world and we have no business trying.
78 posted on 09/25/2002 6:00:35 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
Stick to being a Constitutional Republic and let the rest of the world go their own way as long as they leave us alone.

But does any country really leave us alone, not providing any influence on us in anyway?

These United States are NOT papa to the world and we have no business trying.

My point is that people behave best when they are compelled to do so. There is nothing wrong with disciplining a child, a classroom, a company or a foreign country that steps out of bounds. In fact, the lack of discipline has boosted many of our current world problems.

79 posted on 09/26/2002 12:36:29 PM PDT by patriotUSA
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To: patriotUSA
So you are happy with the prospect of being the "big Daddy" to the world? WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION is the authority for that? Please be specific. Yours is one of the most despicable attitudes it has been my misfortune to see in quite a long while. Please go and re-read the Founding Documents for this country and see if the Founders wanted us to be an empire or a Constitutional Republic. Hint: they had just dumped the King of England and head of the British Empire....
80 posted on 09/26/2002 3:19:25 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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