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Planes Collide In Midair Over Carlsbad
Channel 10 ^ | 9/17/2 | SanDiegoChannel.com

Posted on 09/17/2002 1:45:17 PM PDT by BullDog108

BREAKING NEWS: Planes Collide In Midair Over Carlsbad

No Fatalities On Ground, Police Say

Posted: 1:18 p.m. PDT September 17, 2002

Updated: 1:40 p.m. PDT September 17, 2002

CARLSBAD, Calif. -- Two personal aircraft have collided midair near Palomar Airport in Carlsbad, 10News reported.

10News has reported that at least one person was aboard each plane.

The accident happened around 1 p.m. northwest of the airport, near Cannon Road and Faraday Avenue.

Carlsbad emergency crews are responding to the scene, but initial reports have said that there are no injuries on the ground.

It is unknown how many, if any, injuries or deaths have occurred as a result of the crash.

This story is breaking, please check back for updates.

Sky10 has been sent to the scene, as well as crews from the 10News newsroom. Watch 10News Live @ 5 p.m. for a full report.


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To: seamus
Who is stupider? A reporter who thinks he has to report this fact, or a viewer who is surprised by it?

How about the TV commentator who said that there were many new babies who will never know the father or mother that they lost when the World Trade Center Towers went down?

81 posted on 09/17/2002 7:18:03 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: gridlock
10News has reported that at least one person was aboard each plane.

There was an article on FR a while back about a plane that took off and flew without the pilot after he got out to check something just before takeoff. I searched and couldn't find it, but I thought that it might be used in defense of the idiot reporter. "There's not always at least one person on the plane."

If anyone can find the article and post it, I would appreciate it.

82 posted on 09/18/2002 12:18:02 AM PDT by Gil4
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To: Gil4
There was an article on FR a while back about a plane that took off and flew without the pilot...

About 1995-6, a pilot was hand-proppoing his small plane at Urbana-Grimes (OH) without having a friend standing on the brakes. The engine started and before the pilot could enter the a/c it took off all by itself. It flew for something like 2 hours before running out of fueld and crashing.

I took my flight instruction at Mad River, the next airport south. A scary flying moment occured when, having announced my intentions to land on 27 (on a hazy morning)and being 1/4 mile from the runway, I hear another pilot announce he's starting his takeoff roll on 09.

We squared things *real* fast.

83 posted on 09/18/2002 6:43:59 AM PDT by Fudd
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To: dagar
Drop it at least 50 points more and you have a Defense Atty in San Diego willing to defend a known child molester and killer so that this horrible person could potentially be back on the street, "if all goes well." grrrrh!
84 posted on 09/18/2002 8:33:30 AM PDT by NordP
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To: BullDog108
I think it's real smart to have a parachute on one's light airplane.
85 posted on 09/18/2002 8:51:13 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: BullDog108
10News has reported that at least one person was aboard each plane.

Call me crazy... but isn't that kind of assumed?

86 posted on 09/18/2002 8:52:54 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: BullDog108
Twin-engine Beechcraft Dutchess (primarily used for multi-engine training)

Mooney M20


87 posted on 09/18/2002 9:14:57 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: BullDog108
10News has reported that at least one person was aboard each plane.

Now there is an intellegent reporter for you. Yikes, What passes for reporting these days...

88 posted on 09/18/2002 9:20:12 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BearCub
I think it's real smart to have a parachute on one's light airplane.

In this case a parachute would have done no good. The time it would have taken to get out and deploy a parachute was too short at the altitude these planes were flying (about 1000 feet).

Note: I am listening to the Palomar Airport tower right now and an airplane there just reported a bird strike to its windshield. Apparently not serious enough to cause an accident but it makes you think the karma around that airport is not too good right now.

89 posted on 09/18/2002 9:38:46 AM PDT by Semper
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To: pabianice
That mooney is of the "K" version. 6 cylinders and turbocharged. The Mooney photo in #51 is the "J" version. 4 cyclinders, fuel injected.
90 posted on 09/18/2002 10:39:48 AM PDT by PaulKersey
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To: Semper
In this case a parachute would have done no good. The time it would have taken to get out and deploy a parachute was too short at the altitude these planes were flying (about 1000 feet).

These parachutes are designed to be usable in stalls/spins at pattern altitude. They are rocket propelled and the shrouds are fully extended in less than one second. The forward motion of the aircraft opens the canopy not long after that.

91 posted on 09/18/2002 10:43:18 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: Semper
In this case a parachute would have done no good. The time it would have taken to get out and deploy a parachute was too short at the altitude these planes were flying (about 1000 feet).

Oh, I wasn't clear. These are ballistic parachutes that are attched to the plane. They bring the entire aircraft down. Follow the link and see their video of an in-flight deployment on a 152. Pretty cool.

92 posted on 09/18/2002 10:46:00 AM PDT by BearCub
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To: Semper
I'm quite familiar with Palomar Airport. Took my Hands-On Instrument FAA exam there years ago. It is (was) a VERY busy general aviation airport, with mixed traffic. Lots of exec jets and some commercial commuters.

LOTS of training done there, despite having a single runway(?) because of the excellent instrument training environment. Has all 3 types of instrument approaches available. Planes used to fly down from the Los Angeles area to get out of that crazy airspace and into this crazy but thinner airspace for training. And when the weather turned IFR, planes from all over SoCal flew here to get real IFR time. Is it still that way?

93 posted on 09/18/2002 10:47:37 AM PDT by PaulKersey
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