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Plea deal 'minutes away' when body found
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | September 17, 2002 | J. Harry Jones

Posted on 09/17/2002 5:28:16 AM PDT by Bug

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To: marajade
Don't you believe that a lot of personal soul searching and morality goes into each person's personal interpretation of the instructions the judge gives on BRD. Otherwise a nice computer program could make the call.
521 posted on 09/17/2002 9:15:59 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: sneakypete
Nope,almost all of them were your basic FR "Bush is the new Messiah" Bush-Bot types. They HAD to claim he was innocent so they could justify having the parents given a death penalty for having sex with others.

How the hell do you deduce that Bushbot=Westerfield defender?

LOL!

I'm a Bushbot by your lights and I am NOT a Westerfield defender. Just ask anyone around these parts!

ROFL

522 posted on 09/17/2002 9:16:23 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: bvw
Oh geeze, that cretin thing didn't even bother me. As if the source was worth my worry!
523 posted on 09/17/2002 9:16:56 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: John Jamieson
"Don't you believe that a lot of personal soul searching and morality goes into each person's personal interpretation of the instructions the judge gives on BRD."

Well as a juror you are not supposed to... You are supposed to approach it logically...
524 posted on 09/17/2002 9:18:12 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
My theory comes from trying to explain the 4 bugsperts and explain the lack of evidence of DW in the vD house.
525 posted on 09/17/2002 9:18:33 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
Have you ever served on a jury as a juror?
526 posted on 09/17/2002 9:18:44 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
I would sincerely hope all the naysayers out there feel pretty silly now that this has come out...

But maybe I'm just getting my hopes up...

Yes, I'm afraid you are. They'll never concede. The most you can ever hope for is that they'll fall back on, "yes, well, turns out he's guilty, but Dusek didn't prove it . . . ." baloney.

527 posted on 09/17/2002 9:19:04 PM PDT by Amore
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To: marajade
I think I do.
528 posted on 09/17/2002 9:19:16 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Amore
"They'll never concede."

That really is a crying shame...
529 posted on 09/17/2002 9:20:17 PM PDT by marajade
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To: marajade
Tried 3 times, as soon as I say "engineer" they throw me off. Too logical.
530 posted on 09/17/2002 9:20:29 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: bvw
The personal attacks were first and most often from the hang-Westerfield side.

That is absolutely, without any gray area, untrue.

You've always been polite to me and I appreciate it, but I cannot read this statement and not state my disagreement with it.

531 posted on 09/17/2002 9:20:34 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: John Jamieson
"My theory comes from trying to explain the 4 bugsperts and explain the lack of evidence of DW in the vD house."

Okay, but jurors have come out publicly stating that they discounted it because there too many experts with too many theories so they discounted it.
532 posted on 09/17/2002 9:21:41 PM PDT by marajade
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; BunnySlippers
"But I think that anyone who sits on the side without pointing out the problem is PART of the PROBLEM."

I'll add an Amen! to that remark.

Mind you, I tried speaking up for civility several times and got clobbered for that as well.

533 posted on 09/17/2002 9:22:33 PM PDT by Amore
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To: John Jamieson
"Tried 3 times, as soon as I say "engineer" they throw me off. Too logical."

Well if your posts are indicative of the way you think the state and/or victims were lucky you weren't chosen...


534 posted on 09/17/2002 9:22:48 PM PDT by marajade
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To: John Jamieson
Besides, even the bug experts themselves testified that it unscientific. Are you saying you vote to acquit based upon an expert's own testimony that their own theories weren't scientific?
535 posted on 09/17/2002 9:25:16 PM PDT by marajade
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To: cyncooper
The personal attacks were first and most often from the hang-Westerfield side.

That is absolutely, without any gray area, untrue.

And cyncooper, let me add an Amen! to your statement as well.

536 posted on 09/17/2002 9:26:46 PM PDT by Amore
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To: marajade
Dusek did his best to confuse the jury and he succeeded, but the bugsperts actual were all in quite good agreement. I studied their testimony very carefully and and even repeated some of their calculations, to better understand them.
537 posted on 09/17/2002 9:26:48 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
"Dusek did his best to confuse the jury and he succeeded ..."

The bug experts themselves stated that their findings were NOT scientific. Are you going to discount DNA evidence that was presented, which is scientific, and vote to acquit based on an experts own finding of it being not scientific?
538 posted on 09/17/2002 9:29:39 PM PDT by marajade
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To: BunnySlippers
"...The Westerfield Fan Club..."

I think we must now address these people with more respect. No longer are they merely a fan club, for they have withstood the ultimate test of their faith. All of the jurors and even Westerfield's own attorney agree that he engaged in a "three day weekend of terror." And yet the candles keep burning, the censers keep swinging and the hosannas keep coming in The Temple Of Holy Vindication. They live in the realm of legend and should be accorded their rightful status as The Elders Of The Lost Tribe Of Westerfield.

539 posted on 09/17/2002 9:30:12 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Amore
yes I remember that..the mob mentality took over.
540 posted on 09/17/2002 9:30:17 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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