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Three men detained on terrorist suspicions still under investigation
Naples Daily News ^ | 09/17/02 | By MIREIDY FERNANDEZ, mmfernandez@naplesnews.com

Posted on 09/16/2002 10:16:31 PM PDT by Marak

Three men detained on terrorist suspicions still under investigation

Sheriff Hunter said he had new information on the trio before the medical students appeared on Larry King Live

Tuesday, September 17, 2002

By MIREIDY FERNANDEZ, mmfernandez@naplesnews.com

Just hours before the three men who were detained in Collier County on suspicion of carrying explosives appeared on CNN on Monday night, Sheriff Don Hunter said he had new information on the trio, whose alleged joking comments about a terrorist plot ignited fears across America last week.

"We believe the information (in this case) is not over because of other uncorroborated information we have at the moment," Hunter said.

The sheriff declined to elaborate because the investigation is continuing, but he did point out a discrepancy.

Authorities say Kambiz Butt, Ayman Gheith and Omar Choudhary were pulling a prank when the men made statements at a Georgia restaurant about a Sept. 13 terrorism attack in Miami.

All three men were detained along Alligator Alley for 17 hours between Thursday and Friday but were released after authorities learned the men had made the comments in jest.

On Monday night, they appeared on CNN's "Larry King Live'' and denied they ever made any statements with regard to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks or future terrorist strikes against Americans.

"What hurt me the most is they said it was a hoax," Gheith told King. "We didn't say anything about 9-11, 9-13 or September or anything like that."

What authorities said turned out to be a likely hoax Friday prompted the temporary closure of portions of Interstate 75 and brought law enforcement officers from 20 local, state and federal agencies to assist. Officers used a robotic bomb detector to search the two cars the men were aboard and led a bomb-detecting dog to sniff their belongings.

E.J. Picolo, regional director with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, said Monday it was too early to determine whether the men will be charged with a crime. After watching the King interview, Picolo said he couldn't comment about specifics of the investigation such as whether the men's account on live television concur with statements they made to police Friday.

"Our job is to investigate the situation," Picolo said. "We're going to report the facts as we find them and we'll go from there."

From the outset of last week's high-profile episode, Hunter and Picolo both said the men were uncooperative with authorities while they were interviewed.

"They weren't rude but they weren't fully cooperative," Picolo said.

Hunter said two of the men refused to answer questions, while the third would answer in the form of a question and "fished for information." Hunter declined to be specific.

Although no explosives or traces of bomb materials were found in either car, at a press briefing Monday, Hunter addressed a discrepancy.

A bomb-detecting dog alerted law enforcement there was some kind of bomb-making pattern in both cars, although authorities did not find any such materials.

"The dog alerts to a particular scent, picture or pattern . . . the dog doesn't make mistakes," Hunter said. "One theory may be that there were materials in those vehicles at some point that caused the scent."

Choosing his words carefully, Hunter told media representatives that he wasn't suggesting the three men were transporting explosives.

The sheriff, however, raised a number of questions he wants answered.

"I would want to know whether they were in the vehicles at the time" when any bomb-making materials were present, Hunter said. "We need to be able to explain why the dog alert happened and why the searches happened."

Hunter declined to divulge what new information he has received pertaining to the three men, all of whom are of Middle Eastern descent. The men are medical students who said they were on their way to Larkin Community Hospital in Miami to begin internships.

Hunter said he believes restaurant patron Eunice Stone of Calhoun, Ga., was telling the truth when she contacted authorities Thursday after she said she overheard the three men saying that Americans "mourned 9-11 and they are going to mourn again on 9-13."

Stone, who sat next to the men in a booth at a Shoney's restaurant, said she notified authorities because she feared the men were planning some sort of terrorist attack on Miami.

"That would lead one to believe that we're going to be attacked," Hunter said. "My professional opinion at the moment is that I believe Eunice Stone. She told the truth and did her civic duty and she should be commended."

Stone's attorney, Michael Prieto, also appeared Monday on "Larry King Live'' and said his client had no reason to fabricate a story about what she is certain she heard the Muslim men say inside the restaurant.

Stone was hospitalized with chest pains Monday, her attorney said.

An investigation is under way surrounding the comments the men made in Georgia and their bizarre behavior in Collier County that led deputies to make a traffic stop and issue a traffic ticket to one of the drivers who they say drove past a $1.50 tollbooth on Alligator Alley late Thursday without paying. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation issued a be-on-the-lookout bulletin, which Collier sheriff's deputies responded to when they stopped both cars, Hunter said.

The men say they never blew past the tollbooth, but Hunter said he has a sworn affidavit from the tollbooth operator stating that one of the cars drove through without paying. He also said his agency was in the process of obtaining a copy of a videotape that he said will show the car driving through.

Picolo, with FDLE, said the various agencies that assisted have yet to tally how much the entire operation cost — but assured that it wasn't going to be cheap.

"It was a very expensive proposition to respond in the manner that we did," Picolo said. "But given the information and circumstances, we had no other recourse but to respond at that level."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; US: Florida; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aligatoralley; alligatoralley; aymangheith; butt; choudhary; eunicestone; explosives; gheith; kambizbutt; medicalstudents; medstudents; omarchoudhary; terroristhoax
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To: RottiBiz
Eunice said on O'Reilly last week, the day of the incident, that they spoke English, and that's what really bothered her- the fact that seemingly American folks could be joking about 9-11 and more terror.
101 posted on 09/17/2002 5:31:27 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Balata
I am convinced (and think Eunice and her atty should have said this) that Eunice was reacting to their WORDS AND TONE--not their appearance. I sincerely think that if Eunice had heard someone who looked like Tim McVeigh saying the same things that she would have gotten his license number.

Words have meaning, especially in a post-9-11 world, and the public should be reminded of that.

102 posted on 09/17/2002 5:35:54 AM PDT by MHT
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To: Real Cynic No More
It is about 10 hours from Atlanta to Tamp, and about 3 hours from Tampa to Naples.

What route are you taking from Atlanta to Tampa???

Tampa is only 450 miles from Atlanta--a 7 hour drive with a couple of stops along the way.

103 posted on 09/17/2002 5:36:01 AM PDT by No Income Tax
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To: RottiBiz
Well, if she needs witnesses, looks like she has them! Actually, I'm sure Fox News has a tape.
104 posted on 09/17/2002 5:37:44 AM PDT by windchime
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To: Conservative4Ever
Thanks...you have confirmed what I suspect. The dogs are a big key in this story. As you say both dogs...and I believe both cars.

Why did they need two cars? Were they both rented? I thought I heard that at least one of the cars was rented. There were only three guys. And, if they are friends, wouldn't it make sense to drive together?

105 posted on 09/17/2002 5:38:14 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: nopardons
I have been personally slurred on FR by merely restating the facts of the case. The guys on Greta were good actors, and the rest of the media is making them out to be victims and Eunice a nut-case. However, facts are facts and they will hold up. The police know more than they are acknowledging--they always do. This is just part of the picture--and I think it is going to go back to connections with their hometowns in Michigan (Dearborn is heavily Muslim).

This isn't over.

106 posted on 09/17/2002 5:40:06 AM PDT by MHT
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To: Snowy
Fox News just reported that Florida police are looking for 6 men and a purple pick-up truck in a bomb plot. I will post more details if I hear anything.
107 posted on 09/17/2002 5:40:57 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Tarheel
If they want to show what great world citizens they are, they might consider going to an Arab country with a poorer, underserved population--particularly one where women receive the worse medical care than camels.
108 posted on 09/17/2002 5:43:14 AM PDT by MHT
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To: Miss Marple
Again? Ya know, if one didnt know any better, I'd almost swear Florida is just a media hog state LOL
109 posted on 09/17/2002 5:43:24 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: kcvl
Eunice is no hick--nor is her son who was a witness to the whole thing. Her grammar is better than most newspeople and her nervousness was, if anything, a reflection of her humility and sincerity. Those arrogant "doctors" showed no respect and I would fear someone like the sister moving into my neighborhood.

And who knows what quality of medical education these jokers have been given...they certainly didn't have a notion of what the Hippocratic Oath implies.

110 posted on 09/17/2002 5:46:59 AM PDT by MHT
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To: Marak
Is anyone else getting the feeling that these guys are a red herring, intended to gain sympathy for muslims, marginalize those who are critical of them, and dissuade citizens coming forward to report suspicious behavior in the future?
111 posted on 09/17/2002 5:47:02 AM PDT by LouD
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To: Miss Marple
Fox News just reported that Florida police are looking for 6 men and a purple pick-up truck in a bomb plot. I will post more details if I hear anything.

Maybe there are some smart people in south Florida. Maybe the police said the three guys were innocent, let them go, monitored their phone calls, and now are looking for the pickup truck filled with explosives that the three men put there.

112 posted on 09/17/2002 5:51:34 AM PDT by Snowy
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To: Sledge
Do you add in the amount of auto traffic which can make a one-hour drive into a half-day excursion?

I would also be curious if these guys stopped at or bypassed any of the towns where the 911 hijackers trained or lived.

113 posted on 09/17/2002 5:52:55 AM PDT by MHT
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To: glorygirl
They were headed EAST! FNC reported that shortly after the story broke. They were headed EAST!
114 posted on 09/17/2002 6:02:26 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Conservative4Ever
I believe the dogs.

Same here.

Does anyone know the time frame from when Eunice overheard then to when they were stopped? Did they drive straight through or was there enough time difference where they might have stopped somewhere? Possibly to drop off whatever was in the cars the dogs alerted to.

115 posted on 09/17/2002 6:02:31 AM PDT by barker
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To: barker
Their presence and training in Al Qaeda camps, coupled with their training to be doctors, is an interesting combo. Wouldn't this medical training be useful to Al Qaeda? I've not seen any reference to this anywhere so far. Am I a candidate for tinfoil?
116 posted on 09/17/2002 6:09:09 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: No Income Tax
You can't always drive it at 70 mph, especially at night when trucks are heavy in Florida. Often there are significant delays due to night-time construction or congestion, especially around Ocala and Gainesville and other congested or under-construction areas. His time is plausible, especially if they're driving at or slightly less than the legal speed, taking 15 minute breaks every 2-3 hours, stopping for leisurely meals. Although it doesn't usually take me 10 hours for the trip, it can sometimes take longer. All I'm saying is that his time line is not proof of anything, good or bad.
117 posted on 09/17/2002 6:09:36 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: Marak
These arrogant SOBs sure have ba**s.

I would hope they would remain under a strong microscope until they return to their foreign home rock.

They are pathological liars all.

118 posted on 09/17/2002 6:12:28 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: glorygirl
Just can't see Ashcroft letting them go if there was any doubt at all.

; )Ashcroft would indeed look at all the chatter ,,, maybe they will make a phone call or two ...hhmmmm
Loose lips sink ships ;)
119 posted on 09/17/2002 6:19:19 AM PDT by Tigen
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To: mommybain
I was just wondering about the licence plate that did not match the car......anyone know the story?
These 'boys' sure have cleaned up their act. The one with the 'long beard' is now nicely trimmed. And they couldn't be more polite, They don't have 'bad feelings' about anyone. Neither the police, troopers, hospital or Eunice Stone........everything is fair & square, to them.
Boy, have them had a major makeover.
120 posted on 09/17/2002 6:20:01 AM PDT by mickie
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