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1 posted on 09/15/2002 8:48:39 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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2 posted on 09/15/2002 8:49:12 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: grlfrnd
Sounds like they need a new tax, huh?
3 posted on 09/15/2002 8:50:24 AM PDT by blam
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To: grlfrnd
Trash placed in office loots. Why are you suprised?
4 posted on 09/15/2002 8:50:36 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: grlfrnd
Ah, the joy's of socialism at work.
5 posted on 09/15/2002 8:51:42 AM PDT by hauerf
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To: grlfrnd
...to bankroll invest in city programs and salaries for everything from the Municipal Railway to health care for the needy.

There.
Now it complies with Democrap, politically correct doubleespeak.
Wasteful social spending is always referred to as "investments".
Foolishness is always referred to as "our values".
And, after the last 10 years, the public apparently has swallowed it.

BTW: Have you noticed how the "needy" recipients of these "investments" openly defocate and urinate on the sidewalks of the City by the Bay? Downtown stinks to high heaven, and nothing is done about it.


7 posted on 09/15/2002 8:58:02 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: grlfrnd
Great find and post!
9 posted on 09/15/2002 9:02:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: grlfrnd
Rudy Nothenberg, who ran the city's Public Utilities Commission during Mayor Dianne Feinstein's administration, defended the fund transfers, saying, "There is nothing wrong in my view with using the (Hetch) Hetchy power resource to generate money for the general fund, which pays for cops, parks and recreation and everything that people hold dear."
We're dealing with the same thing up here in WA state where car tab fees and gasoline taxes were going into this morpheous general fund that politians can just dip into for any cause. Thankfully Tim Eyman's group is trying to put an end to this and have taxes generated from one specific area go to support that area.
If you want to fund parks and such then have a bond measure for it. People will pass them if they are reasonable and give benefit back to the community.
11 posted on 09/15/2002 9:06:50 AM PDT by lelio
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To: grlfrnd
I suspect this is going on all over the state. In San Diego, the city looted our sewer fund that was to pay for upgrades and repairs. They started charging the fund right-of-way fees for use of the public streets to run the pipes! Now that the fund is out of money, they've graciously promised to stop sucking money out of it. Meanwhile, sewer pipes were breaking and overflowing all over town, so they discovered that "hey, we have no money in the fund!" so they were 'forced' to raise sewer fees so that repairs could be made. Some days I just want to go to the polls and start shaking my fellow voters so that they'll wake up and stop electing these thieves.
12 posted on 09/15/2002 9:07:08 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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So how long has Davis and his Water butt boys been ignoring this?

But hey, when you have a city full of socialist/communist maggots/perverts that never produce a single thing or service of value, you have to have find ways to fund these perverted lifestyles of the maggots and perverts. Sex change operations are expensive and one maggot might have 20 aids infected partners depending on his health insurance.

When Da Mayor took over San Francisco, this was very predictable. Willie came close to bankrupting Califonia a couple of times, and we produce a lot of stuff/services inspite of the perverted rats amongst us. San Francisco is a prime of example of a city ruled by perverts and Rats in bed with the perverts!
13 posted on 09/15/2002 9:09:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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This one looks to be a solid antidote (though not exactly breaking news).
15 posted on 09/15/2002 9:10:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: grlfrnd
Willie Brown.
16 posted on 09/15/2002 9:11:59 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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When I moved to CA some decades ago, the first thing I did was to go to Yosmite. Appalled by the crowds, traffic and commercialization in the "valley", I looked at the map and headed over to the next valley to start into the back country. I remember being appalled (today I'd say troubled - LOL) that there was this huge dam (Hetch Hetchy)in a National Park (and one of the first ones at that).

How can the enviro-weenies in SF possibly force themselves to use water stolen from its rightful ecological location by a huge manifestation of the industrial world, shipped hundreds of miles from a despoiled (effectively by these very people) natural enviromental treasure that belongs to the world?

And then make a (government) profit on it (probably still partly supported by national tax dollars taken from me - who no longer resides in CA)?

It is and was truly amazing. These people have no shame (nor understanding of the hypocracy of their physical existence - they would stop breathing now (CO2 pollution comes from people too) and help stop global warming if they "really cared").

20 posted on 09/15/2002 9:21:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grlfrnd
"Deferred maintenance" is the prime M.O. of socialist politicians' mismangement. (Remember the Clintons' succession of emergencies which created demands for increased taxes?) When a crisis surfaces, whether natural or politically created, low taxes are the root cause.

Adequate construction and maintenance of infrastructure has been a distant second to the vote buying social spending for 70 years. Trillion$ have been sqaundered.

Layers of governments' and their multitudes of quasi-governmental agencies' 50%+ take of the nations' GNP is inadequate?
21 posted on 09/15/2002 9:24:36 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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As taxpayers have put the brakes on higher direct taxes, pols have turned more and more to user fees. And more and more are abusing user fees.

eg. The SEC collects 7X in fees from busines what it spends to enforce its rules. The rest goes directly to the Treasure.

There are gigantic scandals just waiting to be uncovered all around the country.

22 posted on 09/15/2002 9:33:46 AM PDT by DManA
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People should be fired pronto, ASAP, STAT!!
23 posted on 09/15/2002 9:35:17 AM PDT by timestax
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Today, San Francisco officials say they need $3.6 billion to put the Hetch Hetchy aqueduct back on a sound footing

That's about where Boston's Big Dig started.

24 posted on 09/15/2002 9:47:31 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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California, the triumph of civil engineering over common sense.
26 posted on 09/15/2002 9:51:11 AM PDT by Lessismore
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How nice of the Chronicle not to mention the key distinction:

George Christopher (a RINO) was the last Republican mayor of San Francisco, retiring from office to run for governor against Ronald Reagan in 1968. From that time forward, San Francisco has been under continuous Democratic control starting with Jow Alioto.

30 posted on 09/15/2002 10:09:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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used profits from Hetch Hetchy's hydropower electricity sales to bankroll city programs and salaries for everything from the Municipal Railway to health care for the needy...
Well... just send in the money, The socialist gummint know what is best for ya.

We've been saying this for years. What surprise is where the Chronicle has been... Geez!!! like this one just certainly falls down from the sky.

33 posted on 09/15/2002 11:21:36 AM PDT by Toidylop
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Bond foes - In 2002, several groups, including the Sierra Club and Environmental Defense, oppose the water bond and call on San Francisco to study the feasibility of restoring Hetch Hetchy Valley to its natural state.

You got to love this...let them drink salt water.

35 posted on 09/15/2002 11:31:57 AM PDT by tubebender
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