Well, I don't have a CIB, so maybe no one will give credence to the next statement...
Well I have one, and if it makes any difference, I will say it, Milt Copulos, you are clueless or brain dead.
Posted on 09/14/2002 11:28:29 AM PDT by Commie Basher
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:06:28 -0400
Subject: Drumbeat for war against Iraq has begun
From: "Conservative Action Team"
ALERT AMERICA!!
PLEASE PASS THIS EMAIL ON IMMEDIATELY!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Dear xxxx:
For almost two years, the twenty-four year-old National Defense Council Foundation has held its peace and did not criticize the Bush Administration.
Initially, we just wanted to give the new President a chance to settle into office. Then, after the terrible events of September 11th, we felt it was our patriotic duty to support the fight against terror.
But we can no longer stand silent as we go down the wrong path!
The drumbeat for war against Iraq has begun, led by a group of appointed bureaucrat experts inside the Pentagon. Most of these people have never seen a shot fired in anger or worn a uniform, but are more than willing to let another person spill their blood. They are busy making grandiose plans for a massive invasion of Iraq, without understanding the consequences.
We do.
https://secure.chargedcontribution.com/ndcf/chq.asp
Every NDCF professional staff member is a combat veteran who shed blood for his country. We have all answered our country's call and would willingly do so again. But the military professionals at the Pentagon we speak with on a regular basis paint a disturbing picture.
They tell us that this will be no quick Gulf War as in 1991. They tell us that the Pentagon bureaucrats want them to take on twice the mission we did in 1991 with half the personnel, (at least 15% of whom will be women against an all male Iraqi force) and with half the resources and with as little as 1/3 the airlift!
But that is not all.
The conflict will not be confined to open desert where everything is a free fire zone and our superior technology can easily take out Iraqi tanks and troops. Much of it may take place in an urban environment with many historic sites subjecting our troops to strict limitations!
NDCF Executive Director, MAJ F. Andy Messing Jr. (a decorated veteran of 21 years in uniform, with service in Vietnam, Grenada and El Salvador) was in Mogadishu on a medical mission for NDCF during the Somalia Operation, and saw first-hand what this means. He also was in the Gulf War for NDCF, a war that NDCF President Milt Copulos predicted in a Foundation publication months before it occurred. Moreover that prediction was published in the Washington Post three days before the invasion!
We understand that Saddam Hussein is an evil man whose regime should be toppled.
We also understand the danger he poses to the civilized world.
We understand he is working on chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.
We understand that the Russians are working behind the scenes to help him.
But we also understand that it is possible to eliminate the Iraqi dictator in a way that minimizes the cost to America in both human and economic terms.
In fact, on February 17, 1998, NDCF Executive Director, MAJ F. Andy Messing Jr. published an article outlining how to get rid of Saddam Hussein through Special Operations in USA Today!
In 1998 he also personally briefed then Texas Governor George Bush Jr. (a long time personal friend) in Austin Texas, on defense and foreign affairs issues including Iraq. A copy of that briefing is available on our website http://www.ndcf.org under the heading 1998 Annual Highlights and Publications.
Remember every NDCF professional staff member is a combat veteran. Our analysis is tempered by real-life experience, not some academic exercise.
The experts at the Pentagon lack this insight. That is why they are pushing us into a conventional war that could easily mushroom out of control and engulf the entire Middle East.
The President needs to know that there is another path. NDCF can show him where that path is.
We are already hard at work getting the message out. Executive Director MAJ F. Andy Messing Jr. and I regularly appear on national news programs such as Hardball with Chris Matthews and Fox and Friends. We are also regularly publishing articles and Op Eds to get the message out. We are meeting with contacts at the White House and Pentagon, including Secretary Rumsfeld, to make sure they get another point of view.
Most important, additional fact-finding missions to the region are planned to bring back unbiased information.
But to continue this important work we need your help.
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As a way of saying thank you, we will email you an electronic copy of Milt Copulos April 29th article on Saudi Arabia from Insight Magazine. It is fascinating reading.
Be sure to visit our website at http://www.ndcf.org and learn more about what we do.
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Seems to me that Saddam has been pounded by air strikes for over a decade. He doesn't control his own air space. He is surrounded by nations with "weapons of mass destruction" far more potent that anthing he may have: Israel, Russia, Pakistan, India, and possible the Ukraine. Even Iran is opposed to him (a nation Saddam was unable to defeat -- despite U.S. aid sent to Saddam). Saddam is down and beaten, and if he tries anything, most of his neighbors can take him out. I see no reason for the hysteria that we MUST invade Iraq and topple him. He's a tyrant, but one of the most isolated and pent-in tyrants around.
Are these the same "professionals" that were not driven out during the Clinton Administration? The same ones who were promoted by the Clintons?
Milt Copulos, you are clueless or brain dead.
5.56mm
You get the "Bullseye" award for the day. This organization has crossed the line to political and if 501 3C, they should loose it.
Looks like Mr. Copulos was wide of the mark on Afghanistan.
Well, here's the credentials of their Executive Director:
NDCF Executive Director, MAJ F. Andy Messing Jr. (a decorated veteran of 21 years in uniform, with service in Vietnam, Grenada and El Salvador) was in Mogadishu on a medical mission for NDCF during the Somalia Operation, and saw first-hand what this means. He also was in the Gulf War for NDCF,
Seems far more experienced than all the chickenhawks who pulled strings to avoid combat during Vietnam, hiding out in Oxford, or the National Guard, or the Army Times.
That's for sure. This outfit has lost a lot of credibility with me. Bush43 doesn't strike me as a trigger happy cowboy. I think he likes his enemies thinking he may be, but I think he is deeply considerate. He isn't the confused and scared coward as was LBJ and WJC.
Right. Well, if he "tries anything" overt, that is. What he can still do - just about the only thing he can do - is funnel WMDs to middle men and pretend that his hands are clean while he giggles as terrorists use those WMDs to attack Americans.
Which, I can only assume, is just fine by you, because you oppose taking steps to preempt such actions on his part.
Well, I don't have a CIB, so maybe no one will give credence to the next statement...
Well I have one, and if it makes any difference, I will say it, Milt Copulos, you are clueless or brain dead.
The second "Bullseye" award for the day. There is massive amounts of Saudi money behind the "Iraq Peace Movement". Even "patriots" have been known to sell out their own country for a few pieces of silver.
That makes them all the more credible. They're not knee-jerk for war or peace. They're open-minded to new evidence.
I guess the only people you trust are those who always tow the same line throughout their lives, as though assimilating new data is impossible.
Somehow, that phrase has always closed my mind to new evidence. "New evidence" needs to pass the smell test. This doesn't!
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