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Where do you put Torricelli after the debate last evening? I saw him as defensive and obnoxious. But maybe that is what they like in New Jersey! I was impressed with Forrester but felt he should have defended his own record, in terms of the allegations against him from Torch. Plus why doesn't he disclose his financial background more? That would bother me a bit, esp. in the latest environment of CEO corruption. It wouldn't hurt him to disclose more and fight back against the allegations of corruption!

Of course The Torch is obnoxious, and of course the folks where the garbage meets the sea love it. I think The Torch had an edge in both debates (well in the second one I just listened to the tail end just now on the CSPAN site and The Torch got in some late hits about Forrester screwing old people in his business that Forrester couldn't respond to), but Forrester showed that he has a brain, even if not quite as skilled as The Torch, and that may be enough. The issue isn't who is smarter or a better debater, but whether Forrester is safe enough to vote for in order to dump the liar and the crook. That I think is the part of the playing field where this race will be decided by those voters that are in play.