What the loss of Brazil to "the Reds" would mean for the United States

ESR ^ | September 9, 2002 | David T. Pyne

[Black Agnes]

South America ping! How different are Argentina and Brazil? I don't know a lot about the politics of SA but I should read up on it I guess...

[cmsgop]

They already Hate us in Brazil.

[Dog Gone]

We could always give him the Salvador Allende treatment.

[x]

They already Hate us in Brazil.

Maybe, but it doesn't stop Brazilian immigration here. Nor is anything much likely to.

[be131]

The Bush Administration would be well-advised to correct course and take immediate action designed to prevent the unthinkable loss of Brazil to a Communist-aligned coalition government.

Not sure exactly what the article is suggesting here, but I hope the hotheads in the Bush administration behind the abortive anti-Chavez coup have had their butts spanked hard enough. We don't need another 1970s Chile or Vietnam.

[Red Jones]

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[Tailgunner Joe]

I think you know exactky what he's suggesting.

[blam]

"South America ping! How different are Argentina and Brazil? "

Brazil has the largest population of blacks of any country outside Africa.

I read an article a couple weeks ago about a walled affluent enclave of about 30,000 people that had 1,200 armed guards and all non-residents who visited were searched coming and going.

[Free the USA]

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[marron]

I love Brazilians.

But a trip down the populist path will complete the destruction of their country. The biggest problem with populism is that, having destroyed your economy, it offers no way back. If your misery is forever someone else's fault, then there is no solution, only endless and increasing hostility.

That is what has happened in Venezuela. The country is wrecked, but they stand by Chavez because they accept his analysis that their problems are, still, caused by some cabal of rich folks. And the US.

Venezuela was, like Brazil, a country that once considered itself the equal of any country in the world. How far they have fallen, and from where they are, there is no way back.

It would be tragic to see Brazil follow them down that dead end.

[Tacis]

I don't believe the army would stand by and watch the commies take over. The army protected the country before and then turned it over to elected officials. In Argentina, the army disgraced itself in the Falkland Islands war and in the murders of so many Argentines. The Brazilian army has no such stains. Nor, do I believe that the majority of Brazilians would embrace the communism of Fidelito; they are simply too individualistic and independent. The commies would win in the favellahs but, in doing so, would anger the middle class and the military.

[joesnuffy]

They already Hate us in Brazil.

Yeah till the commies take over ..then its everybody head to the USA....borders wide open and they just love new democrats

[HBAR223]

"The Reds" haven't been the same since Marge Schott left.

[andy_card]

We could always give him the Salvador Allende treatment.

Assasinating their elected leaders is a sure-fire way to win the approval of the local population.

[Willie Green]

Yeah till the commies take over ..then its everybody head to the USA....borders wide open and they just love new democrats

Don't forget the "free trade" RINOs.
They absolutely love it when the commies enslave a workforce for them!

[Dog Gone]

Did we help remove Allende immediately after the election, or was it after he became unpopular and starting stripping away the local population's rights?

Think hard.

[Tailgunner Joe]

When the Communists are in charge, they won't give a crap what the local population wants.

[andy_card]

Did we help remove Allende immediately after the election, or was it after he became unpopular and starting stripping away the local population's rights?

They elected him, it was their problem. If Nixon had been wise, he would have let the Chileans crush Allende at the ballot box.

[andy_card]

When the Communists are in charge, they won't give a crap what the local population wants.

If Allende had canceled elections, there might have been justification for the coup. But otherwise? Let democracy take its course. Sometimes, the means are more important than the ends.