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Special Ops boarding ship to search for Nuclear Material off the NJ shore
Fox News Alert | 9/12/02 | Brytani

Posted on 09/12/2002 10:15:38 AM PDT by Brytani

Fox News just broke in with an alert. Special Op's are now searching a Liberian flagged ship 8 miles off the coast of NJ looking for nuclear material. More information to follow.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: nuclearweapons; ship; specialops; terrorism
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To: turbocat
Good point. Hadn't thought of it quite like that.

The logic of the office of Chief Executive is compelling: I have a duty to be honest, but if my honesty causes mass panic, I have done more harm than good. Dubya has a duty to conceal the arrival in the Port of Newark of a nuclear fission weapon. Just as I'm sure we've not heard of 1/20th of the actual terrorist attacks thwarted.

521 posted on 09/12/2002 8:28:21 PM PDT by Petronski
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To: MonroeDNA
Thanks, four years but it feels like an eternity...:)
522 posted on 09/12/2002 8:30:14 PM PDT by The Vast Right Wing
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To: turbocat
I saw the scroller on bottom of CNN. It said that an FBI official stated "the search had ended 'favorably,' but wouldn't elaborate."

My translation: we found it, disarmed it, and went home.

523 posted on 09/12/2002 8:39:50 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: UCANSEE2
some depleted uranium (to mimic enriched uranium)

Eh? Why is it called depleted then?

524 posted on 09/12/2002 8:49:47 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: El Gato
I kind of forget, how did the middle eastern terrorists in Clancy's fictional "Sum of All Fears" get their device to into the country and to Denver? My copy is in a storage place in San Antonio, and I'm in Oklahoma City, so I can't just pull it off the shelf and check for myself.

In a container, on a ship, then trucked to Colorado...

525 posted on 09/12/2002 8:54:09 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Travis McGee
TV is my last choice, with the exception of Fox. The filter the news editors employ is so dense and so biased that it's useful only for identifying what they choose to report. I'm an old radio newshound (back in the late 70s), and the difference between the two philosophies is shameful.

Slightly off-topic, Jayna Davis sure is receiving some vindication about her post-OKC reporting, though...!

526 posted on 09/12/2002 8:54:12 PM PDT by bootless
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To: myrabach
The 2nd plane from Portugal has been forced to land at Dover AFB and is still on the ground. There is a language problem with the pilot and he was unable to perform a maneuver the tower ordered him to do. The destination was New York.

So, what happened to ICAO regulations about English being the international language of aviation?! Sounds like that South American airline scenario all over again (the 727(?) that crashed on Long Island a number of years ago), but without the bad ending.

527 posted on 09/12/2002 8:58:03 PM PDT by bootless
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell; tall_tex
Possible Terrorist Plot Against South Florida http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/S4873/ ^

Posted on 09/12/2002 11:46 PM Eastern by RummyChick

MAIMI -- An advisory has been sent out to police departments across the state. It's a warning about three men who may be putting together a dangerous plan involving Miami.

A woman at a Georgia restaurant says she overheard three men talking about coming to Miami and she didn't like what she heard. So tonight police are on the lookout for those men.

One day after America remembers September 11th, an alert is issued to police departments across the state about three men.

A woman overheard them talking Thursday morning at a Shoney's restaurant in Calhoun, Georgia. The woman claims the men said, "They (Americans) mourned on 9/11 and they are going to mourn again on 9/13." The men also discussed "running 5 hours behind schedule." One of the men reportedly said, "We do not have enough to bring it down." The men then left the restaurant, and headed south on I-75.

Miami-Dade County officials say they are not taking any chances.

Steve Shiver, Miami-Dade County Manager says, "At this point in time we have no reason... ...to be aware of our surroundings."

We have comprised some information about these men and police are asking for your help.

The description of the first car:

A Nissan Maxima: cream color with gold trim and a Carmax tag on the front of the vehicle.

Now the second car:

A new Honda, black with Illinois plates.

Now for the suspects' descriptions;

First: A man of possible Middle Eastern descent, 5'10'', 200 pounds, 20-30 years old, black hair, brown eyes, set wide apart, thick beard that extends past his collar.

Second man: again, possible Mideastern descent, 5'7'', 130 pounds, black hair that comes down to his collar.

The third and final man, also of possible Mideastern descent, 5'7'' 130 pounds, shiny black hair.

Now we want to stress tonight, as we speak, the nation is still at an orange alert. (the second highest) This may be nothing, but they just want to talk to these men to make sure.

If you have any information you are urged to call Miami-dade CrimeStoppers at (305) 471-TIPS or in Broward call (954) 493-TIPS.

Stay tuned to WSVN Channel 7 for the latest on this developing story.

528 posted on 09/12/2002 9:09:46 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Petronski
In such a scenario, the blinding flash would not be a significant issue, no?

Instead of purple-white, it'd be blue-green, but probably not as much an issue as with an air or surface explosion.

529 posted on 09/12/2002 9:13:13 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: Eowyn-of-Rohan
I had forgotten about vanilla phosphates, hmmm!

I guess that we are showing our age. On vacation, whenever, we visit a small town if it has a soda fountain we ask the locals about it. If they say that it has been there for years and is good. We ask them about our favorites. If we get a positive response we will try it.
530 posted on 09/12/2002 9:54:06 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Travis McGee; Clovis_Skeptic; ladyinred
That is what makes the Navy so great. You have all these different guys with different skills/specialities working as a team. Same Navy, same ship or station, a cohesive group with different individual skills working to the same goals. Your Seal teams were the ultimate Navy model.

It is amazing how many of the al Fuqra groups have been busted up after we ferreted them out and posted the data about them for the whole world to see. I just pinged you about the guy given the jail sentence. His group, the kiosk jewelry islamakazis in our malls, got busted big time. We were all over this group and bingo the arrests started happening. We are still getting data on the leftovers from the al Fuqra group in Clovis from former "members".

How is your book coming? Let us know when and where we can buy it?
531 posted on 09/12/2002 10:03:30 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Could someone summarize what the status of this is? Last thing I saw reported was that SEALS has boarded -- has anything else come out?
532 posted on 09/12/2002 10:05:20 PM PDT by Naspino
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To: Naspino
I don't know what the final status is. I had been away for about 3.5 hours.

This may be one of these deals that we are not told anything about what really happened. It may be nothing but some possible factors adding up to a legitimate alarm. Or it could be very serious.

This one has a lot of potential pucker power!

533 posted on 09/12/2002 10:14:30 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Naspino
This is probably about as up to date as we'll get at this point. Shipped Searched for Nuclear Material
534 posted on 09/12/2002 10:21:03 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Grampa Dave; patton; Jim Robinson; JohnHuang2
You and clovis_skeptic and many others were all over Al Fuqra months before the media or FBI could be bothered to look.

If there is a freeper hall of fame, some freepers should get an award for busting up the NW terror cells.

As always, FR is "the cutting edge of the cutting edge". AKA "read next week's headlines on Free Republic today".

535 posted on 09/12/2002 10:44:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: bootless; patton
The filter the news editors employ is so dense and so biased that it's useful only for identifying what they choose to report.

Exactly! Sometimes the "edges" of a story can be felt by observing their story choices and story spikes, then viewing that "matrix" backwrds through their known bias filters.

All those who slogged through the constant derision chasing the truth about the OKC-middle east connections are heros, with Jayna Davis at the front of the line.

536 posted on 09/12/2002 10:49:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
You have that exactly right. OKC is about to revisited.
537 posted on 09/12/2002 10:54:29 PM PDT by patton
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the kind words.

As you noted in your reply, As always, FR is "the cutting edge of the cutting edge". AKA "read next week's headlines on Free Republic today".

In some cases, months, later our old Freeper News, becomes the headlines. Even then those headlines and the story in the media, will not have the insights that we share and learn with each other.

538 posted on 09/12/2002 10:56:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: ET(end tyranny)
SCHUMER: NEW YORK DANGEROUSLY UNPREPARED FOR NUCLEAR TERRORIST THREAT (re:ships)

see this thread

539 posted on 09/12/2002 10:59:58 PM PDT by testforecho
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To: testforecho
And this from WP, excerpts only

15 Men Held in Italy Face Terror Charges Based on U.S. Tip (Terrorists pulled off freighter Aug 5, near Sicily)

I checked the itinerary of the Newark freighter, which was in/near Hong Kong that day. But this is still unsettling. This was after the warning about stowaways, correct?

Something else I thought of. What if the terrorists pulled of the first freighter were the advance crew for whatever's on this one? Did we get the tip from that arrest?

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Following a tip from U.S. naval intelligence officers, Italian authorities last month seized a ship carrying 15 suspected terrorists off the island of Sicily, Italian officials said today. The men, identified by Italian authorities as Pakistanis, were charged today with "association" to commit terrorist acts.

"We are certain that these people are part of a terrorist organization and we are almost certain that the organization is al Qaeda," said Santi Giuffre, police chief of Caltanissetta, where the group is being held."

"Officials here said the decision to board the ship last month was made on the basis of a U.S. government tip. Police and members of SISMI, Italy's military intelligence service, boarded the vessel in Italian waters off Sicily and found the 15 suspects along with seven Romanian crew members. The Italians confiscated telephone numbers, messages that had been encoded and Karachi-Casablanca air tickets."

A U.S. Navy representative present at the news conference, Samuel Worth, told reporters that the coded reference to marriage was especially worrisome. "We are alarmed," he said, "because it's a word that was intercepted during the first attack on the twin towers, in 1993. It is one of the elements that induced us to intervene."

540 posted on 09/12/2002 11:03:55 PM PDT by testforecho
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