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Florida vote goes from chad to worse - Glitches bedevil new system; Reno trails
Associated Press ^ | September 12, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 09/12/2002 3:31:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP


Florida vote goes from chad to worse

Glitches bedevil new system; Reno trails in Democratic primary

09/12/2002

Associated Press

MIAMI - Despite a $32 million renovation, Florida's new election system crashed in an embarrassment that, like the 2000 election, left residents wondering whether their votes counted, candidates pondering recounts and everyone asking who's to blame.

"You guys have NO idea what a mess this has been," state election monitor Mike Lindsey wrote his Tallahassee bosses in a pre-dawn e-mail Wednesday from Broward County. "The mess was the result of no planning, poor leadership, lack of 'process ownership' and passing the buck."

The debacle, echoing the 2000 presidential stalemate, drew even more scrutiny because, once again, Florida had a high-profile race that was too close to call.

With 3 percent of precincts still to report by Wednesday afternoon, former Attorney General Janet Reno trailed Tampa lawyer Bill McBride for the Democratic gubernatorial nomination by 19,000 votes out of more than 1 million cast.

The voting problems included technical and human error. Workers had problems starting up new touch-screen voting machines; ballot cards tore and couldn't be read on optical scanning machines; and technical problems delayed processing the electronic cartridges used in the touch-screen voting machines. In Miami-Dade, nearly half of the ballots that were still uncounted Wednesday were cast by black voters.

In addition, some poll workers failed to show up, several polling places opened late and some voters were wrongly turned away for not showing a picture identification.

In response to complaints Tuesday, Gov. Jeb Bush extended polling by two hours but that led to yet more abuses: In Hollywood, workers at one precinct who had not been told of the extension held the door shut and cursed at voters.

In all, 14 of the state's 67 counties reported voting problems, including six of the seven that were sued after the 2000 presidential stalemate.

On Wednesday, the blame game was fast and furious.

Voters and Mr. Bush pointed fingers at election chiefs in Miami-Dade and Broward counties, which bought touch-screen machines to replace punch-card equipment. All counties were required to get rid of punch-card ballots.

Others worried that Florida's troubles were a warning of more to come. Several states scrapped punch-card ballots, bought new equipment and changed their laws since the presidential race.

"It's not just Florida. It's a national problem," said Rob Richie, executive director of the Center for Voting and Democracy, based in Maryland. "We will have lots of problems in the next two months."

Ms. Reno met with legal advisers and contemplated legal action Wednesday.

She could demand a recount or sue to overturn the results. Secretary of State Jim Smith said the race may be tight enough to automatically trigger a statewide recount.

By Wednesday evening, with 99 percent of precincts reporting, Mr. McBride had 599,057 votes, or 45 percent, compared with Ms. Reno's 588,034 votes, or 44 percent. State Sen. Daryl Jones had 155,648 votes, or 12 percent.

Among other races across the nation:

Washington, D.C., Mayor Anthony A. Williams had a commanding lead at the end of the first day of counting write-in ballots in the city's Democratic mayoral primary. By Wednesday evening, Mr. Williams had 17,299 votes in his re-election bid, compared with 1,958 for the Rev. Willie F. Wilson. Poll workers were to return Thursday to continue counting.

Two-term New York Gov. George Pataki faced no Republican opponent but lost the Independence Party nomination to billionaire businessman B. Thomas Golisano. That means Mr. Golinsano's name will be on the November ballot, along with that of state Comptroller H. Carl McCall, who won the Democratic nomination a week after former U.S. Housing Secretary Andrew Cuomo dropped out.

In Maryland, Democratic Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend and Republican Rep. Robert Ehrlich won their parties' gubernatorial nominations. State Sen. Christopher Van Hollen defeated Kennedy cousin Mark Shriver for the Democratic nomination to challenge eight-term GOP Rep. Constance Morella.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/091202dnnatflorida.8b9.html


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
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To: Utah Girl
As more Americans join the Republican Party or become indys, the dems will try anything to win elections. You'd think it'd be easier to just find decent Americans to run for office but they've just got Geps and Dash-it-alls, Conyers, Waters, HRC, et al.

I am also glad that Pubbie Smith lost his race to Sununu. I have no patience for RINOS either. Nice that McCain is startin' to support the POTUS at least in his rhetoric this week. How long has he been fighting with Dubya? Almost long enough to lose his base in AZ.

61 posted on 09/13/2002 9:52:37 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
What are you up to? Good job. (^: I'm posting pertinent FR posts on the "Republicans Comment on the Dems. trashing Florida's reputation" thread to be forwarded to press/GOP/Alcee Hastings, etc....Florida Republicans are fighting back, fairly and with determination. The Dems. will pay for their mischief this time (insert "Flight of the Valkyries" here).
62 posted on 09/13/2002 10:50:05 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
What am I up to? I'm helpin' Reno, I'm cheerleading for Jeb and for Charlie Crist, I'm watching the detainees on Alligator Alley, I'm fighting my condo association and makin' hash browns. I may have left something out. It's been a busy day. LOL
63 posted on 09/13/2002 11:48:19 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: MeeknMing
The 3 detainees in Alligator Alley are from Ross University in NY. Do we have any way to check Ross University and surrounding area for sleeper cells? Please advise or ping someone who can find out. Thanks, FV
64 posted on 09/13/2002 11:49:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
LOL! I should have clarified:

McBride's done other things that shall remain off the record. If it comes out in public or Court, I'll do a thread.

What are you up to, here? But thanks for the lowdown on your busy day. Hash browns, yum! Friday's soup and sandwiches for me, tomato and grilled cheese.

Oh,oh...I said cheese. Now some wise guy will bring up moose (^:

65 posted on 09/13/2002 1:15:46 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: floriduh voter
You're talking about the Florida prank this morning? I didn't know they were from NY and can't help re: sleeper cells. But here's the latest I've heard on them, just fyi (click on the links if interested).....

Per FOX News Channel, it seems that the three detainees are from three different ME countries - Pakistan, Iran & Jordan. Possibly they didn't speak a common language except for English I suppose. Also, their story is they were heading to a hospital for some medical seminar and their alibi (reservations) is confirmed by the hospital where the seminar is to be held. That still doesn't explain their conversation and behavior, etc.

I-75 is still closed on that 20 mile stretch.....

PS: The speculation is that they were playing a "joke" on the lady in the booth next to them. Looks like the joke is on them, imho..........

They are still being retained for further questioning, etc.

66 posted on 09/13/2002 2:08:31 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
The 3 "medical students" were released about 45 minutes ago. Now, they disappear into our free society. Even though they could be prosecuted for making a terrorist threat (hoax), if they disappear, how can they be charged with a crime?

The one guy's sister (in white muslim garb) said she thought the Georgia hero was LYING. Throw them all out. They are sympathizers of Al Quaeda. I don't know where the sister was holding her press conference from but you know, profiling, prejudice, blah, blah, blah.

And, the cops didn't release their names because I'm sure they're afraid someone is going to harm them and then the families are going to sue the cops.

67 posted on 09/13/2002 3:14:00 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
Hmm? I bet she left out the part where the police said that these idiots were "uncooperative" when questioned? They should be prosecuted for the mess they caused. You don't go to an airport and joke about bombs. This isn't much different, imho......
68 posted on 09/13/2002 4:55:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
It is a form of terrorism even though there was no actionable criminal act. They scared the woman and everybody in Florida. Actionable as a Federal Crime however, even though there wasn't any violence. CONNIE CHUNG SEEMS TO WANT THE GEORGIA WOMAN INVESTIGATED. I think that lady from Georgia is a hero. Thank you Connie, sorry I accidentally had CNN on for a minute or so.

If this lady from Georgia gets drug through the mud, we'll have to send her a letter of support somehow. She's now in the media spotlight and being accused of being prejudiced and a liar by people that I do not trust or have any respect for - WHATSOEVER. It's over for me with muslims.

69 posted on 09/13/2002 8:48:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: DGallandro
It seems to me that they told us during the recount that these three counties always report last. they use the excuse that they are the most populous, but they are the dem strongholds and they wait to see how many votes they need to win. Then they add them. This has been going on indefinately.

Between the first report and the machine recount in Bush v Gore Palm Beach county magically found 10,000 more votes for Gore.

Also the election supervisor in Miami refused to purge his rolls of illegal felons, as instructed by the Secretary of State. Someone was doing a tally of felons who voted in Miami that was reported in our newspapers. The tally went up to 5,000 before the thing ended. Presumably, it is still the same. A local radio personality has been faulting Bush for not restoring all 60,000 voters who were purged. Most were correct, because the election supervisors doublechecked.

If you were to visit Miami, you would be hard pressed to see any Americans. It is overrun with illegals from South America, the Carribean, and Haiti. English is rarely spoken. However, it is not PC to ask how many voters were illegals. That is the big fraud that cannot be mentioned. It will be interesting to see how the Justice department reacts. A TV personality joked that Folridah go back to being a territory until they learn to hold elections correctly.

70 posted on 09/14/2002 6:07:20 AM PDT by ClaireSolt
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To: floriduh voter
Connie Chung? Sheesh. She is way down on my list (further now).

Yesterday, when Eunice Stone, the lady in Georgia that did the right thing in reporting what she overheard in Shoney's, was on FOX News, and she received high praise from several of their staff and guests. If the LIBS try to drag Eunice through the mud, I can GUARANTEE you that they will have answer to Bill O'Reilly !! That assumes that she's not found to be a racist (which I don't think will be the case).




71 posted on 09/14/2002 8:48:00 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: floriduh voter
Get this ! FOX News just said that the CEO at the medical school these guys were going to aren't going to be welcomed. Said he doesn't need any trouble-makers !

He's gonna help them find somewhere else to go, though. They said something about hate e-mails too. (I think I got all that detail right).

72 posted on 09/14/2002 12:12:03 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
They can go to medical schools SOMEWHERE ELSE! But, of course tne native born American slime. I am so over comments about racial profiling. We are doing it to stay alive for God's sake.
73 posted on 09/14/2002 3:07:24 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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