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Pope Asks God to Show Mercy on Sept. 11 Attackers
Reuters via iWon.com ^
| Sept 11, 2002
| Philip Pullella
Posted on 09/11/2002 5:32:02 AM PDT by Pern
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To: ovrtaxt
It's called Purgatory.
To: sinkspur
Thank you, sinkspur, for injecting a reminder of the Christian mystery into this discussion.
To: Orual
If JP wants God to forgive these monsters, then who is it he deems horrible enough to be condemned to eternal suffering. No one, is my guess. Maybe he rightly recognizes his role as a man devoted to the teachings of Jesus Christ, is to leave the judgement to God, and to humbly, compassionately, and peacefully pray for the salvation of all men.
Even the most despicable among them.
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posted on
09/11/2002 5:54:29 AM PDT
by
OWK
To: Kozak
Mercy? Ok, a quick bullet to the head of any of those who participated in this. Is that merciful enough? I personally had in mind a slow burning fire.
How do you show mercy and forgiveness to those who are implacable and unremorseful, who stand there ready to kill, maim, torture innocent civilians? Nah, to hell with it. Skin them, dismember them and sent their body parts to all the nations that harbor terrorist with a message - "We are coming for you next"
To: HamiltonJay
there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to pray for mercy on the souls of those who act willfully and wantonly as the agents of Satan."I say to you, forgive your enemies..pray for those who persecute you."
Some of you "Christians" are forgetting the direct words of Christ Himself.
45
posted on
09/11/2002 5:55:45 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: sinkspur
Yes I do know, and I'll repeat it...they didn't repent, and are now in the hell they so richly deserve.
Go pray for yourself.
To: uncbob
Guess the Bible was BS then. Why don't you give it a rest today, OK? Come back to make trouble and be snide tomorrow.
To: Pern
I have to side with justice, not mercy, in this case.
To: sinkspur
Your number 45.
Seems as though most folks prefer the Old Testament! ;`)
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posted on
09/11/2002 5:58:44 AM PDT
by
verity
To: Puddleglum
Some how it is hard for me to perceive a Perfect Being ( just think exactly what that implies ) walking around trying to make up his mind and needing human prayers to help him do it.
Course if you create God in the image and likeness of man with all the traits of a human then it makes sense
50
posted on
09/11/2002 5:59:05 AM PDT
by
uncbob
To: HanneyBean
Yes I do know, and I'll repeat it...they didn't repent, and are now in the hell they so richly deserve. Well, would you mind telling me the winning lottery numbers for this Saturday?
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posted on
09/11/2002 5:59:30 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: Conservative til I die
Guess the Bible was BS then. Why don't you give it a rest today, OK? Come back to make trouble and be snide tomorrow.
Just trying to use my God given brain to reason
Sorry it troubles you
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:00:36 AM PDT
by
uncbob
To: sinkspur
You pray for your persecutors, in hopes that God may enter their hearts, and they may change their ways. These particular persecutors are dust, and in the hands of the afterlife. I will not petition the Lord on their behalf.
To: OWK
Maybe he rightly recognizes his role as a man devoted to the teachings of Jesus Christ, is to leave the judgement to God, and to humbly, compassionately, and peacefully pray for the salvation of all men. Men must deserve salvation, they must work at it and live their lives accordingly. They should not hope for a fatuous statement from a man who should know better to save them from eternal damnation. These men stood for everything that the Church and God abhors. God will certainly decide.
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:01:15 AM PDT
by
Orual
To: uncbob
Some how it is hard for me to perceive a Perfect Being ( just think exactly what that implies ) walking around trying to make up his mind and needing human prayers to help him do it. Why did Christ pray to His Father? Christ was a man, too, don't forget.
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:02:22 AM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: Pern
09-11 Attackers?...well at least he didnt call these murderous vermin...freedom fighters
To: uncbob
uncbob (I have an uncbob!) said:
Course if you create God in the image and likeness of man with all the traits of a human then it makes sense
But God created God in the image and likeness of man - in Jesus. I suppose he had a lot of options, don't you? But man needed redeeming and forgiving. Jesus died for the sinners, not the saints. Like I said, it's a tough mystery but it's at the heart of Christianity, and I don't dare question it. I somehow suspect that God holds to a higher standard those who have heard Jesus' words and rejected and parsed them than those who were brought up to hate them. I believe we have a right to administer human justice and should, but I don't beg for damnation for anyone.
To: Pern
- Pope John Paul, marking the anniversary of the attacks on U.S. cities, branded terrorism "ferocious inhumanity" but asked for prayers that God would show mercy and forgiveness for the attackers.Uh, once yer in hell, you're eternally separated from God. That's the "hell" of it. Seems unlikely that the hijackers had "death-cockpit" conversions.
Hard to figure what the Pope is talkin' about.
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:06:48 AM PDT
by
Old Fud
To: Junior
...seems to me the Pope isn't senile, but is simply being the best Christian he can be.Indeed, the Holy Father is doing exactly what Popes are supposed to do. He has much practice praying for his persecutors, starting with the Nazis and continuing through the Communists. Note that while praying for them, he also resisted them tooth and nail. He outlasted them and, in the case of the communists, helped defeat them. The Pope knows exactly what he's doing and suffers no lack of "moral clarity."
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posted on
09/11/2002 6:07:56 AM PDT
by
ishmac
To: sinkspur
Why did Christ pray to His Father? Christ was a man, too, don't forget.
Which one is the Pope praying too
BTW It has been a year since they died so they were either in hell or not
What is praying going to do get them out
And I still think it is kinda tacky praying to all all just merciful etc etc being to help Him make up His mind. Implies he can be swayed
60
posted on
09/11/2002 6:07:58 AM PDT
by
uncbob
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