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To: HamiltonJay
there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to pray for mercy on the souls of those who act willfully and wantonly as the agents of Satan.

"I say to you, forgive your enemies..pray for those who persecute you."

Some of you "Christians" are forgetting the direct words of Christ Himself.

45 posted on 09/11/2002 5:55:45 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Your number 45.

Seems as though most folks prefer the Old Testament! ;`)

49 posted on 09/11/2002 5:58:44 AM PDT by verity
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To: sinkspur
You pray for your persecutors, in hopes that God may enter their hearts, and they may change their ways. These particular persecutors are dust, and in the hands of the afterlife. I will not petition the Lord on their behalf.
53 posted on 09/11/2002 6:01:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: sinkspur
I agree with all you've said.

It is perfectly human to want justice for killers but mercy for oneself. I believe they deserve justice, but I hope, for God's sake, they could somehow come to His mercy.

Part of the problem is that humans separate in our thoughts forgiveness and repentance. God does not. They are two sides of one coin, so that when we pray for God to forgive we are implicitly praying for the sinner to repent. Whether or not sinners after death have the ability to repent is God's concern, not ours.

Also, our prayer for God to forgive is for God's good and is not focused on the sinner at all. Those who become monsters like the hijackers are a great loss to God, and it is the extension of His kingdom to even them we are praying for.

Some object to this prayer because they think it implies that the State should forgive. Not so. The State has no capacity to even perceive or evaluate repentance, so it has no right to forgive. The state either dispenses justice or neglects justice.

Justice is a natural symmetry; it is perceived by common grace, which resides in all men. Mercy and repentance are graces which flow from Christ; all men do not have them. So when the State begins to even think about theological virtues it becomes a devil.

So the Christian prays for God to forgive the hijackers, just like He has forgiven me. I deserved death; He gave me life.

The State should punish the wicked men.

92 posted on 09/11/2002 6:32:38 AM PDT by Taliesan
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