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To: Cachelot
Jewish or not doesn't really have anything to do with it. There's actually quite a few Jews I would characterize as anti-semites. Quite regardless of Gottfried's race, religion or political views.
I wouldn't call Gottfried self hating. Neither would I call Dan Stein such. Since I contributed to articles published on VDARE, I suppose I will also have to assert that I am not a self hating Jew, even if I am at odds with much of the community.

No. But posting a single high-profile and rabid antisemite makes them lean that way, and it also makes them a "natural resource" for people of like mind. It very clearly makes them not "mainstream". And when you find VDARE grouped together with other sites that seems obsessed with race, a few bells goes off.
Does the same hold true for Townhall.com which links to Sam Francis?
The anti-semetism by association routine doesn't hold water.

As for obsession with race, what is wrong with this? Name one non-self-hating Jewish site that isn't?

117 posted on 09/11/2002 2:50:34 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew
I wouldn't call Gottfried self hating. Neither would I call Dan Stein such.

What I would call an anti-semitic Jew would be, for example, a Jewish anti-zionist. I'm fairly convinced that antizionism equals antisemitism.

Does the same hold true for Townhall.com which links to Sam Francis? The anti-semetism by association routine doesn't hold water.

I don't think, really, an odd link is much of an indicator. But if you look at a site where most of the links are to sites that have racism as an overwhelming theme, you have a pretty good idea.

Name one non-self-hating Jewish site that isn't?

Actually, most of those seem not to be overly concerned with race. More like concerned with a cultural identity and religious identity. Which makes perfect sense when you consider that Jews come in all kinds of colours and shapes :).

128 posted on 09/11/2002 5:38:47 PM PDT by Cachelot
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