Bin Laden Pins Blame On Bill Clinton

Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | 9/9/2002 | Rush Limbaugh

[TLBSHOW]

Bin Laden Pins Blame On Bill Clinton

Is the September 11th aftermath yet another Clinton administration mess that needs to be cleaned up? Consider the John Miller ABC News interview with Osama bin Laden conducted back in the late 90s.

It turns out that the Black Hawk Down situation was an Al-Qaeda operation, run in cahoots with the warlord there - Mohammed Farrah Aideed Sahib Skyhook. Bin Laden told Miller that Black Hawk Down was the turning point, and that the incident told Al-Qaeda we were weak-bellied and spineless, and could be had by a bunch of "skinnies" with rifles.

Just as the author of the book Black Hawk Down theorized, our quick, gutless exit out of there was a signal to terrorists around the world that we could be beaten. John Miller reported in 1998, "American intelligence agencies believe it was Bin Laden who dispatched his personal brigades with rocket launchers to shoot down U.S. helicopters..." and then rolled bin Laden's response to the charge.

"Our people realize more than before that the American soldier is a paper tiger that run in defeat after a few blows. America forgot all about the hoopla and media propaganda, and left dragging their corpses and their shameful defeat." -Osama bin Laden

Thank you, Bill Clinton. These are bin Laden's own words. I'm amazed ABC is going to run it. Clinton's name doesn't come up, and he has tried to claim that it was George H. W. Bush's fault – though Clinton changed a humanitarian mission into one of "nation building" without adequately arming our men. That's what led to the deaths of our men in Somalia - and if you doubt that, please don't believe the Clinton spin. Read the book.

John Miller's Interview with Bin Laden...

(PBS: Watch and read the May 1998 interview with the terror mastermind)

[gortklattu]

Clinton was more dangerous than we realize, even today.

He's like a soft-spoken, polite National Socialist leader. He charms people into following him. Those people have no principles other than followship of who they adore. Because of their emotional mindset, they are prone to hate their opponents.

[tet68]

Maybe you better go back and read some history.
Nixon mined haipong harbor and brought the north to
the negociation table in ernest.
George Bush was acting under a UN mandate.

[exit82]

You make some good points about liberals and revising history. Brit Hume and Sean Hannity have played the film clips of leading Demons beating the war drums in '98 and flip flopping in 2002.

Your comment about Nixon and no appropriation for 1974--that's news to me. I think the NVA could care less whether we had the money allocated or not. It took six months just to decide the shape of the damn table the peace talks were held on in Paris.And you're right, the Sink Emperor never allocated money for any of his foreign schemes.

[moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing]

"Not so. It was a Democrat, Truman, who allowed us to get placed in a police action, instead of winning the Korean War, even after MacArthur brilliantly saved the day with the landing in Inchon. Ike got us out of a mess.

And, in 1964, it was a Democrat, Lyndon Johnson, that allowed us to get sucked into a war that was based on a totally fabricated incident, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and then we were not allowed to fight to win. Again a Republican had to finish the job. And it ended when we finally flexed our incredible military muscle and almost bombed Hanoi and Haiphong back into the Stone Age. "

How exactly did MacArthur save the day and then get fired by Ike? And unless I'm mistaken we retreated from Vietnam and let the south be overrun. Is that how Nixon finished it?

Most of you have missed my point that we have at times engaged in failed military ventures regardless of who was in the White House, and being partisan just lets you blame it all on Democrats and Liberals and ignore the details.

[exit82]

Sept., 1950. Seoul was lost--we were about to be pushed off the Korean peninsula by the NK forces. MacArthur's Inchon landing behind the front NK line won the day for the US. It was later that winter and followiing spring that the war ground down, after MacArthur was fired in early 1951 for pushing for the A-bomb to be used when the Red Chinese entered the war at the end of 1950.

Nixon got us out of the Vietnam morass in Jan. 1973, and most of our forces were removed from South Vietnam in 1973. The South Vietnamese lost the following war with North Vietnam in April, 1975.

And I was not being partisan. My almost fifty years on earth have shown me that Democrats make messes and Republicans seem to have to fix them up. And history has repeated itself. The scumbag Sink Emperor neglected business for eight years, and a Republican has to clean up the mess he left behind.

[moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing]

So the fact that Reagan and Bush Sr. created the Iraq monster means nothing? I said originally that I wasn't defending Clinton, but he's not the only one who screwed up to create this situation.

[exit82]

Or did Jimmy Carter(D) create the fundamentalist Muslim monster in the Mideast?

[moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing]

You're still being partisan.... I fully acknowledge that Democratic presidents have screwed up, but you just won't take off the blinders and admit that the Republicans have screwed up too. I don't want to keep paying the price.... but then sometimes you get what you ask for. Good luck to you.

[RedwM]

Yeah, but clinton was a draft dodger, and he "loathed' the military.

[exit82]

Moderation, you're a good egg, and I don't mean to pull your chain.Please re-read your reply #7 in light of our discussion, and tell me if you still think I'm the only one being partisan here.

BTW, my mom's favorite saying was "moderation in everything". It has been wise advice.

[GOP_Lady]

Couldn't have said it any better. Thanks!

[nightdriver]

"How exactly did MacArthur save the day and then get fired by Ike?"

MacArthur was pulled out of Japan to go fight the war in Korea. (yes, "WAR.") He made mistakes, too, like he was trying to actually win. Quite the radical concept for democRATs.

By the way, um, MacArthur was fired by Truman, not Ike, and it was Ike who got the cease-fire agreement from NK by promising a liberal use of the A-bomb if they didn't agree, not MacArthur.

[moderation_is_not_a_bad_thing]

"Moderation, you're a good egg, and I don't mean to pull your chain.Please re-read your reply #7 in light of our discussion, and tell me if you still think I'm the only one being partisan here. "

Not to worry, I think we've been having a very reasonable discussion (I don't bother responding to irrational posts).

I think I stated in my first post that I wasn't defending the democrats so much as pointing out that we've had screw-ups no matter who was in the White House. At least I thought I was clear : )