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1 posted on 09/09/2002 12:11:00 PM PDT by lyonesse
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...a revolution that can dislodge the House of Saud, a la the Shah of Iran, can equally throw out the hated Americans.

The conclusion is a non sequitur that does not follow from the premise. That is, just becasue a revolution could dislodge the House of Saud, does not mean it could dislodge the US military from the oil fields.

2 posted on 09/09/2002 12:22:05 PM PDT by dark_lord
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"India has long been the bloodiest theatre of Islamic militancy in the world, barring only Israel. Now that the false hopes of American containment of Pakistan-sponsored terror have been well and truly dashed, New Delhi would do well to let go of Washington's coat-tails and forge intellectual bridges with Europe about the threats posed by fundamentalism."

"intellectual bridges with Europe about Islamism"...come again? Does the author mean with the right-center Europeans who are sick of the creeping Muslim invasion by immigration, or the hare-brained Europeans who are opposed to US self-defense?

3 posted on 09/09/2002 12:32:42 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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This essay is a curious combination of fairly knowledgeable details with complete misunderstanding of what is going on. It'd say this is a bright young man who is in way over his head.
4 posted on 09/09/2002 12:39:39 PM PDT by Cicero
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"most provocative is the open declaration by Muslim leaders that once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough (possible in just three-four decades), it will press for the introduction of Sharia (Islamic law) in the country.

"The possibility of Sharia as law also stares other European societies, such as Holland, in the face."

Remind me to see the humor when it happens.

5 posted on 09/09/2002 12:57:16 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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What's going to be even funnier will be female American "Liberals" grumping about in their burqas. The soccar moms will have to get men to drive them around. Lesbians will have to find men to escort them when they go out on the town. And female "vocalists" like Barbra Streissand can just hang it up; women will not be allowed to sing in public.

Remind me not to say, "I told you so."

Remind me to try to see the humor.

7 posted on 09/09/2002 1:07:33 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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"One year after the WTC attack spearheaded the greatest-ever challenge to the values of the West . . ."

Wrong. The WTC attack pales in comparison to the complete subjugation and de-Christianisation of North Africa, the conquest of Constantinople, the invasion of Spain, France, and the Balkans, and the siege of Vienna. All of the previous challenges have been greater in scale and scope.

What makes this challenge different is the nature of the "defenders." In the past, whenever the Moslems went on one of their rampages, they were opposed by people who actually stood for something. What they stood for, of course, was Christianity (the Jews are comparatively new targets of Jihad) and they went to war against Islam in the full knowledge that it was "either them or us.".

George II, to the contrary, pretends to believe (or actually believes, which is a much more frightening possibility) that only a miniscule portion of the Moslem population is engaged in active hostilities, and THEREFORE Islam is a "religion of peace." This is an example of lying with statistics. Of course it is only a minority of the Moslems that are fanatics and active warriors. But here's the part that Bush et al. will not address: this minority constitutes the leadership of the Islamic community -- the teachers and clerics.

Let's concede that a small minority of the Islamic population is involved in terrorism. An even smaller minority of the Japanese population bombed Pearl Harbor. And they got two A-bombs for their troubles.

But now George II is preparing to attack everyone's favourite scapegoat, Saddam Hussein. I think if we look at the numbers, Saudi nationals have been guilty of killing more Americans on 9/11 than the Iraqi army did during the entire Gulf War. Yet we are still pals with the Saudis. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the major reason for sequestering the al Qaeda prisoners is so that that the public does not catch on to the extent of Saudi involvement in international terrorism.

But why let the facts get in the way of George II's Bush's Splendid Little War, Part Two?

12 posted on 09/09/2002 1:37:11 PM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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But this has not inhibited the Islamic clerics from issuing an edict calling Muslims to drive native Danes out of the Norrebro quarter of Copenhagen (to make it a Muslim ghetto). We'll see a lot more of this to come in this century.
13 posted on 09/09/2002 1:38:54 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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We can fight them now on their land or wait till they attack us again, and try to fight to defend ourselves, after they attack us again and again and weaken our military. I vote for getting them now. We also need to drill for oil in California where I live now, Florida, Alaska, etc. Everywhere we can! We need to stop relying on Middle Eastern oil peroid, then we might not care if they are shooting each other all the time. OK we would still care!
17 posted on 09/09/2002 2:39:59 PM PDT by buffyt
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9/11

9 x 11 = the 99 attributes (names) of Allah

9/11, Allah declares war.

Does the west know? Some of us do.

18 posted on 09/09/2002 2:45:37 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
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