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U.S. reprisal to be 'annihilation'
Washington Times ^ | 9/09/02 | Joyce Howard Price

Posted on 09/08/2002 11:41:52 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:57:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Vice President Richard B. Cheney said yesterday that Saddam Hussein is "actively and aggressively" trying to build a nuclear bomb, and two key senators disclosed that U.S. officials have warned the Iraqi dictator that he and his country face "annihilation" if he deploys a weapon of mass destruction.


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To: Southack
"France and England had to get it from us. "

I seem to recall the Brits were involved in the Manhattan project, notably Geoffrey Taylor & James Tuck. Don't know enough about the French to say how they got there.

61 posted on 09/09/2002 9:20:33 AM PDT by no need for a name
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To: Southack
That would rule out plutonium, because beyond its difficult manufacturing and production problems, it also is rather more radioactive AND toxic than uranium (in fact, the toxicity of plutonium will get you before the radiation).

That having been said, the precision required to build a nuke is overstated, especially when producing early designs (assuming that Iraq didn't get "bogus" designs). Of course, those designs needed to be carried on the largest bombers of the day (B-29s and B-36s), so you won't see them flying on SCUDs. Indeed, depending on the design chosen by Iraq, the timing issue is moot (again, that particular family of designs precludes both missile/artillery launches and very high yields). If, however, Iraq wanted nuke missiles/artillery, they would have to have access to advanced designs and precision.

Electronics, also, is highly fungible. Outside of the timing issue (only an issue with certain designs), the electronics used need not be overly-advanced. Iraq would not need nearly the same level of weapons safety that the rest of the nuclear world takes for granted, as even an accidental, premature detonation would fulfil Saddam's purposes. Morever, Saddam's not going to sit around for 42 years and watch his country literally fall apart without lashing out at least once with his nukes.

Along the lines of safety, the poor sod that's asked to deliver an Iraqi nuke and become an instant martyr for the Iraqi Islamist cause will NOT be making it back. As long as (a) he doesn't croak of radiation poisoning before he reaches his target and (b) his plane (could also be a ship; in fact if the target were US soil, it would almost have to be a ship) doesn't drop out of the sky due to radiation-induced metal fatigue, no one will care that he took enough rads to kill him inside of 2 weeks on the way to the target.

62 posted on 09/09/2002 9:22:45 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: steveegg
"There will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

Outstanding line from our National Security Advisor!

63 posted on 09/09/2002 9:31:50 AM PDT by Coop
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To: Vermont Lt
"I saw that too, about the Anthrax. I thought it would garner more attention than it seems to have. Methinks that we might see some type of proof from GW on Thursday. That would be the drama we need to shake some folks up."

I doubt it'll shake many people into growing a spine. The cowards, appeasment freaks, as well as the bitterly anti-American left will just say the possibility of a massive anthrax attack on the US is all the more reason why we should appease Saddam, but cloaking their cowardice under a PC "The United States should take a Cold War approach" label.

64 posted on 09/09/2002 9:33:28 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Coop
Bingo. Thank you Condi.
65 posted on 09/09/2002 9:35:22 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: cake_crumb
Never mind the fact that the Soviets in the cold war never attacked us in a manner as we have been attacked.

This ain't akin to the Cold War. This is akin to World War II.
66 posted on 09/09/2002 9:39:49 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: js1138
Nice points. People 10 years ago would have been afraid to breathe a doubting word on Islam, they so had us cowed. Remember Rushdie? No one dare eek a word of disapproval lest they be a target of a hit. Now these same people are on the run. Mullahs in Iran are at the top o the list. I am old enough to remember that generation of Iranian men walking about beating themselves on their backs with horse hair whips. Haven't seen those idiots doing their annual masochists ritual in many many years. Methinks the zeal has run out on that group. Admittedly, that generation was on a holy mission to restore pride and honor after the Shah.
67 posted on 09/09/2002 9:41:40 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: cake_crumb
The cowards, appeasment freaks, as well as the bitterly anti-American left will just say the possibility of a massive anthrax attack on the US is all the more reason why we should appease Saddam, but cloaking their cowardice under a PC "The United States should take a Cold War approach" label.

Actually, that is precisely the line Clinton has been pushing: if we attack Saddam, he'll use his biological weapons against the American people. In fact, he's going further than that. He's telling Bush that he mustn't point the finger at Saddam: that he must stick with the "loose network of Islamic extremists" theory that became de rigeur during Clinton's own eight-year Reign of Error. Clinton is taking on the role of Saddam's local agent -- like a Mano Nera enforcer -- spelling out to the blackmail victim what is required of them, and what the consequences will be if they don't submit. And, why not? Clinton's interests are totally aligned with Saddam's, are they not?

68 posted on 09/09/2002 9:45:52 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: hchutch
I'm still waiting for someone to stand up like Admiral Halsey did on 12/8/1941 when he said, "Before we're through with 'em, the Japanese language will be spoken only in hell!" (quote courtesy Naval Historical Center)
69 posted on 09/09/2002 9:46:14 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: EternalHope
"Given the Dems' decision to subtly filibuster the "debate" on Iraq, I wonder if President Bush will decide the time is right to play it."

I certainly hope so. The Senate, led by Tommy, who's led by Hitlery, has only one goal in refusing to discuss war on Iraq: they want President Bush to lose the war on terrorism, so they can get back into control of the White House.

They could care less about terrorists attacking our country. Hitlery proved that by blithely stating in the beginning of October, 2001, WHILE WE WATCHED THE WTC STILL BURNING AND BODIES BEING RECOVERED, that President Bush's tax cuts caused the economy to falter. Disgusting buncha people. Traitors, every one.

70 posted on 09/09/2002 9:46:48 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: eno_; All
Is VX as horrific as portrayed in the movie, "The Rock"?
71 posted on 09/09/2002 9:51:58 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Is VX as horrific as portrayed in the movie, "The Rock"?

The Oxford University Department of Chemistry believes so. In fact, the Brits (who invented VX) gave it to us in exchange for thermonuclear warhead information.

72 posted on 09/09/2002 9:58:31 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: A Navy Vet
I should've triple-checked the link; the " that shows up at the end shouldn't be there; it should be http://www.chem.ox.ac.uk/mom/vx/VX.htm
73 posted on 09/09/2002 9:59:46 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: andy_card
andy_card signed up 2002-07-12

More spin from this goofball.

Iraqi officers know well what happens to those who don't fallow Saddam's orders (however irrational.) Saddam regularly has his command randomly "thinned" just to instill fear in his officers.

Only when Saddam is removed from power (and assumes room temperature) will his officers consider doing anything but what they were ordered to do.
74 posted on 09/09/2002 10:03:51 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: section9
Ain't PSYOPS a bitch.
75 posted on 09/09/2002 10:10:19 AM PDT by irish_lad
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To: justsomedude
justsomedude signed up 2002-09-08
76 posted on 09/09/2002 10:11:08 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse; John Robinson
I miss the old Member Since table that JohnRob had; it looked so much better.

Seriously, I prefer ground temperature as measured 6 feet below the surface (room temperature could easily be 98.6 degrees). The other thing that could make Saddam's generals rethink their loyalties is getting cut off from the Republican Guard.

77 posted on 09/09/2002 10:11:31 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: anymouse
yup. definitely haven't been here long enough to learn what questions are acceptible and what are not. Maybe you can send me a list of 'approved thoughts?'
78 posted on 09/09/2002 10:15:01 AM PDT by justsomedude
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To: js1138
"It certainly seems unlikely that anyone could quickly put together a sophisticated bomb ( or make a suitcase bomb work without all the proper ingredients and codes)."

Someone with Saddam's resources can buy one though. Remember, in spite of Russian assurances that all of their weapons are accounted for, there were initial reports that they "lost" a couple, and their loss of enriched uranium is well known and has been a source of worry for years.

All Saddam has to do is buy some of the former Soviet Union's "lost" nukes, and hire the brainpower necessary to build more in the future. Remember, if he simply buys them...heck, for all we know his great buddy China provides him with them....then he doesn't have to build and test his own devices. We, therefore, wouldn't have any nuclear tests to detect, and cannot unequivocally say Saddam does have nukes.

I'm more worried about the possibility of chemical and biological weapons at the moment, though.

79 posted on 09/09/2002 10:33:08 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: The Great Satan
"They are in no hurry to get this over with. Up to a point, the longer this is stretched out, the softer the blow to the American psyche and the economy, the worse the stress on Saddam and his people, and the more time we have to physically prepare our defenses for the confrontation."

Exactly. Well said BUMP.

80 posted on 09/09/2002 10:38:18 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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