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Lying is cultural trait of Arabs, says Barak
The Guardian ^ | May 23, 2002 | Brian Whitaker

Posted on 09/08/2002 12:38:13 PM PDT by Lockbox

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To: dennisw
Amazing.

Arafat who?

61 posted on 09/08/2002 8:54:46 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: FreedomPoster
A fascinating link! I see more and more similarities between Islam and Soviet Marxism. In the dar al-Islam, morality holds sway. In the dar al-Harb, all's fair. A similar division obtained in the Cold War--in the sphere ruled by Moscow, one was to be decent and upright(a fraud, but that was the public line), and in the world yet to be conquered by Moscow, one was obligated to subvert and overthrow. Islam's view of morality reminds me of Lenin's dictum: behavior is moral if it advances the revolution. It's idle if it doesn't. Finally, the obligation to deceive the uninitiated is a moral duty for both sets of ideologues.
62 posted on 09/08/2002 9:12:36 PM PDT by ishmac
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To: GreatOne
Too bad there's a billion of these nutjobs to worry about ...
63 posted on 09/08/2002 9:14:06 PM PDT by Tunehead54
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To: Tunehead54
Actually only have to worry about a few thousand - get them (as we are doing) and the rest will most likely not be a bother.
64 posted on 09/08/2002 9:55:49 PM PDT by GreatOne
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To: Grut; Lockbox; dennisw; veronica; BenF
<< Gosh! Weren't things like this being said about German Jews seventy years ago? >>

Yes.

By death and destruction worshipping, false-prophet-following, psychopathological, lying, looting, mass-murdering, nazi bastards, whose meglamaniacal false prophet, Adolph Shicklegruber, patterned his whole life on that of the false-fuerher, Muhummid, formed alliances with islamanazis everywhere -- and emulated their death and destruction-worshipping, mass-murdering actions -- and muhummid's!

Quite a coincidence, eh?

[And to compare Mr Barak's observations upon the truth about today's lying islamanazis with the lies of yesterday's imitation islamanazis [Austria-Germany's Nazis!] is probably sailing very close to anti-semitism, wouldn'tcha reckon?]
65 posted on 09/09/2002 2:32:14 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: Lockbox
Palestinians have no compunction about telling lies and see truth as irrelevant

Boy! isn't this the truth.

This trait extends to the entire Islamic world. It's un-explainable.

66 posted on 09/09/2002 2:36:33 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Lockbox
Bump!
67 posted on 09/09/2002 4:46:47 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: Grut
Yeah and democrats didn't stuff ballot boxes, hold polls open later than is lawful, and throw entire boxes of ballots away, and vote more times than there were registered voters in New Mexico, and announce Florida for Gore before the polls closed. But when caught red handed they certainly screamed the loudest that the other party was guilty, so being pathological liars isn't confined to the middle east, we have the same diseased scum right here wearing suits in America, and that's why I dispise them with every fiber of my being.

Hilter and other liars such as himself were not above the same tactics as the scum liberals. Scream louder and point the first finger. Evidently the pathology of the Palestinian, Hitler, and Liberals is famous, and disgusting, to everyone but you.

68 posted on 09/09/2002 5:10:38 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Grut
Gosh! Weren't things like this being said about German Jews seventy years ago?

It doesn't seem like your attempt at moral relevancy generated any agreement, did it? Has it occurred to you that you might be wrong?

69 posted on 09/09/2002 5:12:22 AM PDT by BenF
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To: Lockbox
"They are products of a culture in which to tell a lie... creates no dissonance," Mr Barak says. "They don't suffer from the problem of telling lies that exists in Judaeo-Christian culture." "Truth is seen as an irrelevant category," he says."There is only that which serves your purpose and that which doesn't.

After three years of living with Arabs, this is a very good description of Arabs. It is unfortunately just the way it works. Anybody that denys this has never lived with them, or is just trying to understand them with a western mindset.

70 posted on 09/09/2002 6:10:08 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Torie
..even as he had an idealism to help them, but if and only if it was not inconvenient to the amassing of his power.

Actually, that's Caro's interpretation. You could also argue that he knew that "helping" the Mexicans, Blacks, and others would help his career by bridging the political gap in his resume between the northern Dem. liberals and his own southern Dem conservatives, etc. He had his eye on national power from the beginning. He used Russell, and the rest of the Bol Weevils the same way he used Humphrey, etc. All in the name of Power.

Actually, you're exactly right; he's numero uno when it comes to sociopathology. Thanks for jogging my memory.

71 posted on 09/09/2002 6:54:10 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: OldFriend
Sorry. It really was uncalled for to say that the US was not much better. I just have trouble accepting that so many Americans voted for Clinton the second time, when they knew what he was.

I know Democrat voter fraud could account for some of his margin in 1996, but still ....

72 posted on 09/09/2002 7:03:32 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: ReadMyMind
When the Saudi Arabian multimillionaire arrived in New York
with a cash gift I thought of the old saying about gifts and Arabs. Rudy refused the offer.
73 posted on 09/09/2002 7:06:06 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: Lockbox
"Truth is seen as an irrelevant category," he says."There is only that which serves your purpose and that which doesn't.

No wonder the RATS love them.

74 posted on 09/09/2002 7:11:35 AM PDT by bankwalker
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To: Grut
Of course you're right. Arabs are just like us. Just. Like. Us. There is no such thing as cultural difference. Everybody is just exactly alike. Run along and play now, dear.
75 posted on 09/09/2002 7:13:38 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Montfort
Yes, but still....there are those who defend and revere the clintons and all they stand for. It's a very sad commentary, not on America, but on those who would be so evil that such wrong doing is acceptable.
76 posted on 09/09/2002 8:40:02 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: A_perfect_lady
Everybody is just exactly alike.

Well, apparently you think everybody who's a Moslem is. We should leave the wild overgeneralizations and demonizing descriptions to the Liberals. I suppose the next step will be that all Moslems live in "compounds."

77 posted on 09/09/2002 8:46:24 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Grut
And apparently you think there is no such thing as Muslim or Arab culture. They have no elements of culture that can be described. Oh well, you said it, not me.
78 posted on 09/09/2002 9:16:14 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Grut
Nitwit, this lying behavior described Hitler and his Nazi's perfectly. They had no problem with lying at all, and it was all documented.
79 posted on 09/10/2002 5:35:49 AM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Guillermo
Nitwit, this lying behavior described Hitler and his Nazi's perfectly.

Sorry? My point was that the sort of things we are hearing today about all Arabs are exactly the sort of things the Nazis were saying about all Jews back then. I'd think Freepers would have more pride than to salivate so willingly for the bell.

80 posted on 09/10/2002 5:47:18 AM PDT by Grut
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