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To: Cato the Censor
Charlemagne was undoubtably a great man despite the atrocities against the Saxons but it was Charles Martel who at the Battle of Tours saved Europe from the Muslims.
51 posted on 09/06/2002 9:19:59 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel; Cato the Censor
it was Charles Martel who at the Battle of Tours saved Europe from the Muslims.

True, but Martel was Charlemagne's grandfather. I think Cato was referring to Charlemagne's expedition to Spain, when some say he so weakened the Spanish Islamic state that it could not make a planned invasion of the Frankish state. That was the expedition on which Charlemagne left his captains Roland and Oliver in command of a rearguard force in the Pyrenees, which was famously wiped out, before Charlemagne could return, summoned by the horn of Roland!

66 posted on 09/06/2002 11:17:42 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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