Green Party Candidate in California Governor's Race - Spoiler? (One Can Only Hope!)

Sacramento Bee ^ | September 5, 2002 | Kevin Yamamura

[Austin Willard Wright]

You are right about one thing. The Republicans and Democrats are dominated by mushy moderates. If that inspires you....well it takes all kinds.

[Publius]

You can flame me all you want, but I'm right. Click here for a better poll and a better article.

[Coop]

38% to 31% is a statistical dead heat?

Yes. 3.6% margin of error

[Coop]

That's a flame? LMAO!! You've obviously not been flamed very much, sensitive one. That poll you gave me I'm quite familiar with. So? An 11-point lead? Whoopee, the incumbent is sitting at 41%. Who sponsored the poll? Why not use the Dem poll from two weeks earlier showing a 17-point lead? Or the Dem polls a little later showing a 9-point lead?

Do you see a couple of trends? 1) The incumbent can't come close to breaking 50%, even in Dem polls, after spending $16 million. 2) If you believe all those polls (which I do not), then the gap is closing rather quickly - 17, 11, 9, and now 7. So you should be talking about Simon's momentum.

If you're going to go back to old polls, why not use the 9 polls showing Simon leading the race?

You're right? No, you're not. You state Simon doesn't have a chance. Yet you have nothing concrete to back up that nonsense. You have an incumbent that has spent heavily and yet cannot break 47%. You have a challenger that has been pummeled by ads and the media who is in a statistical tie in this latest poll. And he just started advertising. And the President of the United States just helped him raise $3 million.

You are so not right. Even if Davis does win this thing, you're just off somewhere in anti-reality world. Yet you'll undoubtedly run around saying how right you were, even if it's a 50-49-1 race. :-) Get a grip.

[Publius]

I see the trends, all right, and I see that without a miracle, or a really good showing from the Greens, Davis has this one in the bag.

And please stop using the term "statistical tie". An 11-point lead does not a statistical tie make.

[Malcolm]

I'm a 20+ year veteran of politics, so I know something about it. And one extremist's moderate is another's conservative. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....

[Saundra Duffy]

That was funny! (About the "fruit") LOL! DUMP DAVIS! GO, SIMON!!! For victory & freedom!!!

[rb22982]

This poll shows a 7 point lead, not an 11. Combined with the fact that the incumbent cannot even get above 45-48% (not even 40% in this poll) shows that he is still very beatable. The odds may be in his favor but to write Simon off is foolish.

[Saundra Duffy]

Gotta love 'em. I hope the Green Party does very well. Very well indeed.

[Saundra Duffy]

I think the Green Party should make a BOLD STATEMENT on November 5th, don't you?

[Austin Willard Wright]

It would be more accurate to say that yesterday's moderate is today's extremist. 70 years ago Social Security, federal control of welfare and education, massive farm subsidies, affirmative action, etc. were considered "extreme" now they are considered "middle-of-the-road." Prepare to shift your views to the left in the next twenty years or you too will be considered an extremist like yours truly.

[Malcolm]

Thanks, but I'll take my own counsel, because I, not you, will have to answer for it one day. You are either going to have a moderate GOP gov't in ofc, or you will have a leftist Dem one. If you can't discern the difference, check out today's vote in the US Senate. Dems kept a qualified judge from being voted into a federal court position. If the parties are identical, as intolerant extremists keep huffing and puffing, then why can't two "indentical" parties get together on federal court nominees? We're lucky to even be able to get a moderate Republican gov't into ofc, and I will gladly take that over a leftist one. I am as conservative as anyone on FReep, but intolerance just leads to Dem rule over me. If you can't tell the difference, that's not my problem. Mine is Judgment Day, and I'm have plenty to explain, but not helping to elect the evil Dems will be one thing I've be totally innocent of. Meanwhile, Dems keep the abortion mills going, and extremists bellyache, sit out elections because there are no "perfect" candidates or parties, or vote 3rd party, further dividing what little conservative vote there is, then falsely accuse me of being a RINO. (LOL!) Go figure.....

[CyberAnt]

Who is this guy - Gaulke?? I think his name is. He's supposed to be getting attention from the religious right after the latest mess with gay rights' lies about Simon. This guy could pull a lot of people we need for Simon.

[Coop]

An 11-point lead does not a statistical tie make.

You're clueless. A 7-point lead with a 3.6% margin of error does a statistical tie make.

You obviously do NOT see any trends, or you wouldn't make such ridiculous statements.

[Coop]

This poll shows a 7 point lead, not an 11. Combined with the fact that the incumbent cannot even get above 45-48% (not even 40% in this poll) shows that he is still very beatable. The odds may be in his favor but to write Simon off is foolish.

Give it up. I tried the factual approach with Publius. :-)

[CounterCounterCulture]

Gulke. Here's the full slate...

• Bill Simon (Republican)
• Reinhold "Ron" Gulke (American Independent/Constitution)
• Gary David Copeland (Libertarian)
• Gray Davis (DemoRAT-Incumbent)
• Peter Miguel Camejo (Green/Red)
• Iris Adam (Natural Law/Ohhhhmmmmmmm)