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To: FreeMe

Oh yeah? Well the Battle of Cowpens was a JOKE! Generals Green and Morgan didn't win the battle. I don't care what anybody says. Washington doesn't know one end of a musket from the other... and Green and Morgan are no better. What idiots. Next thing you know, they'll be sending our guys to Guilford Court, for crying out loud.

WE NEED PEOPLE IN COMMAND WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING!

Signed : arnold knows
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To: arnold knows

Thank you for finally saying what many of us is thinking. I, for one, am disappointed and disillusioned in our war tactics and leaders. I am tired of the in fighting and name-calling. Some people just can't see the wart on the end of their nose. That wart being Washington and all his land-grabbing cronies who are in this for political gain.

I begin to think People For A Free Country is a cult ... one I plan on leaving unless things begin to change around here.

Signed: George was my King
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To: Arnold knows; George was my King

Its apparent FreeMe has decided to ignore you both. But I can't. The Battle of Cowpens was brilliantly fought and led. Washington may not be perfect, but I have not seen anyone better. You armchair Generals overreach, I think ... and are doing nothing to help the cause.

Signed: LibertyLives
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To: LibertyLives

"But I have not seen anyone better" ... that must be the stupidest thing I have ever seen posted on PFAFC.

Queue tied too tight?! Just because you have not seen anybody better doesn't mean THERE ISN'T SOMEONE BETTER!

I swear, this sight has lost its focus. Just because we criticize Washington and his gang doesn't mean we want to remain tied to Britain. But is seems to me we are using a lot of folks who DON'T belong here ... Canadians ... Frenchmen come to mind ... to do the job your King Washington can't do himself ...

Signed: still in the woods
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To: arnold knows; George was my King; still in the woods

I really wish we could stop fighting amongst ourselves. I've noticed movement north. There are more important things to fight about.

Signed: BetsyR
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To: BetsyR

Oh shut up you. You're an egg shy of a pudding, as usual. And just looky here! We did battle at Guilford! And guess WHAT?! We LOST!

Ever wonder why there are stripes/bars on our new flag?! 'Tis a symbol! We went from one prison to another ... I really hope you Washington-worshippers are happy now.

Signed: rabble-rouser
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To: rabble-rouse

Hate to rain on your grog-filled parade ... we may have technically lost at Guilford Court, but it was a defining moment in the war. The British suffered losses not acceptable. Cornwallis in on the run.

Signed: KingGeorgeWearsBloomers
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To: KingGeorgeWearsBloomers

That's it. This site is obviously a bullhorn for weak-kneed Washington. I am done with it.

When the day dawns and you see we've done something so tactically dumb as to wage a battle in Yorktown ... or someplace just as difficult to prevail ... maybe you'll wake up.

I won't be there to see it though. I've better fields to plow.

Signed: only when it's my way
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To: ALL

I don't think their intent is to win. I think they only want more land. They are in cahoots with the King and are poisoning our soldiers and using tainted bandages. I have a reliable source, which told me of this.

Signed:everything everywhere is evil
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To: General Horatio Gates:

George Washington is a Mason. If that doesn't shed some candle light on the matter, what will? Liberty for common people? Hmmmph! Obviously, this ill-conceived revolution is nothing but a plot for a new world order.

Signed: Illuminnutti
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To: ordinary man:

What nut would position troops at Valley Forge ... in the WINTER ... right outside a British stronghold in Philadelphia? And you say Washington knows what he's doing?!” Training”.. Yeah, right ... drinking and conspiring, more like it. WAKE UP! The enemy is within!!! And why does he have to take his wife with him everywhere he goes ... does she spoon-feed him?!

Signed: red coats are coming
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To: LibertyLives:

And WHAT kind of General hires a German....von...von Stupid...that's it Von Stupid... to train and drill soldiers! The idea! Doesn’t he know the British are HIRING German mercenaries, for Pete's Sake? Sounds to me like Georgie General has a SPY in his camp!

Signed: a Tory Wannabe
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To: still in the woods:

And if I hear the King of Mount Vernon complain one more time about his soldiers not getting paid, I'm going to Puke!

Signed: Tax Tea!
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To: Tory Wannabe.

Worse than that, have you hear about the little Jamaican half-breed artillery officer he's got as an aide-de-camp? Somebody Hamilton? Why he lets that little bandy rooster of a man have any kind of command is beyond me...

Signed: Missing England
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To: Missing England:

Well, ME, you just reminded me of that Frenchie Georgie has warmed up to! Something verrrrry amiss there!

Signed: William Pitt
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To: Tax Tea!

You have a point. What did they do with that levy money we raised? We need a full accounting now, before things go any further. I just don't trust that Washington, he never smiles. The fighting should stop until we get some answers! I smell kickbacks.

Signed: Missing England
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To: William Pit

I’ve got to run. The soldiers that are quartered here need to check their mail. And I think they just killed our pig.

Signed: Missing England
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To: wigs is:

you’ve your facts wrong. We recaptured Stonypoint with General Washington personally leading the charge. End result ... very few Americans died ... over 60 Tories did and more than 500 Tories taken prisoner.

Signed: Stay the Course
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To: Stay the Course.

Sure ... confuse the issue. There's no talking to you ... nothing I can say will prove to you Washington is a lightweight ... maybe when we are all subjects to the King again ... and your Washington acts as his left hand ... you will finally believe what has been so obvious all along. Those who follow never lead.

Signed: I’m talking listen
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To: stay the course:

Stay, sometimes I tremble for our young country...I wake up to the mist clearing from the meadow...the old trees rising beyond up to Heaven, it seems. And I tremble and ache for the loss and sacrifice...And then I think of my dearest childhood friend, Abigail. She lives over on the coast now, married of course to another Friend. He will not fight, but instead build boats for the Cause. And my cousin, joined up with Washington at the start...5 years, it has been now! And my neighbor's sons....so strong and determined, proud...even after Guildford Courthouse.Some..some spirit moves among us.... Faith, stay the course....FAITH!

Signed: Angel in the Whirlwind
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To: Sweet Song Of Liberty

You are way off key here SSOL. How can you possibly minimalist or rationalize the resounding defeat at the Battle of Camden?! The "brilliant" General Horatio Gates and his troops crumbled like week-old cornbread.

I haven't seen anything that pathetic since the massacre of Jane McCrea.

Why don't you go back to the Tory Underground where you belong if you are going to be willing to swallow that twaddle?

Signed: manic-minuteman
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To: manic-minuteman

General Gates had 1400 Continentals and patriot troops from Virginia and North Carolina. He was still vastly outnumbered. Retreat was the only option.

I am of the notion that the problem points to our scouts. I don't think Gates had been given intelligent information to correctly formulate an attack.

To compare this to the torture/murder of Jane McCrea is beyond the pail.

Signed: NoLibertyNoLife
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To: NoLibertyNoLife

Come back to ground, man! A retreat is a defeat! My 10-year-old Nathan would have known better than to take on forces so much larger than his own.

Now I hear rumblings in Maryland that they are drafting an Articles of Confederation ... and get this ... each state is to remain sovereign! LOL! Like that will work ... Washington and Jefferson will be be payin' off their cronies with this one ... that's if any of us survive.

Signed: Brummell's jolly ghost
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To: Brummell's jolly ghost

If you and I had been on the Mayflower, I would have been sorely tempted to push you overboard.

Why not talk about all the battles we have won thus far?!

Signed: Queen Victoria Lacked Eyebrows
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To: Queen Victoria Lacked Eyebrows

Cease and desist with the taunting or you will be relegated to the stockade.

Signed: Shopkeeper
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1 posted on 09/05/2002 6:59:29 AM PDT by illstillbe
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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); acnielsen guy; Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; ...
And away we go!!!!
2 posted on 09/05/2002 7:00:04 AM PDT by illstillbe
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To: illstillbe
Way cool.

Or should I say: Thou art coolest. (?)

8 posted on 09/05/2002 7:07:20 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: illstillbe
Good work!
14 posted on 09/05/2002 7:16:42 AM PDT by lsee
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To: illstillbe; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart
Five stars.
19 posted on 09/05/2002 7:19:58 AM PDT by dighton
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To: illstillbe; Tennessee_Bob; Howlin
LOL!
38 posted on 09/05/2002 7:49:53 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: illstillbe; .45MAN; FreedomPoster; Apple Pan Dowdy; LBGA; viligantcitizen; backhoe; RobFromGa; ...
Excellent, excellent, excellent.....

For anyone that has been unfairly flamed, this is outstanding!

{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}
52 posted on 09/05/2002 8:05:16 AM PDT by dansangel
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To: illstillbe
Hillarious! You creative thing you.

I think the Founding Fathers pulled it together because they stuck their necks fo far out it was either unify or die.

After they published the Declaration they could not turn back. PLUS it was a wonderful dream and they managed to sell it to enough tough minded individualists that they succeeded.

However it's been coming apart ever since. You might even say we are more civilised in our disagreement now than in 1776. Just adk Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Bur what their thoughts are NOW on political debate.
68 posted on 09/05/2002 8:26:27 AM PDT by mercy
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To: illstillbe

To: stay the course;angel in the whirlwind

Stay, sometimes I tremble for our young country...I wake up to the mist clearing from the meadow...the old trees rising beyond up to Heaven, it seems. And I tremble and ache for the loss and sacrifice...And then I think of my dearest childhood friend, Abigail. She lives over on the coast now, married of course to another Friend. He will not fight, but instead build boats for the Cause. And my cousin, joined up with Washington at the start...5 years, it has been now! And my neighbor's sons....so strong and determined, proud...even after Guildford Courthouse.Some..some spirit moves among us.... Faith, stay the course....FAITH!

My dearest co-patriots, in light of the sudden blind following of our General Washington (by those henceforth I shall refer to as Washbots), I shall be remanded to another forum, where I and like others shall be able to find intelligent discourse in hope of pursuing our own Declaration of Independance. Fare thee well.

Signed: Eternal Vigilante'
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76 posted on 09/05/2002 8:46:03 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: illstillbe

To: Eternal Vigilante'

Here, here!

Signed: Rattling Saber
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78 posted on 09/05/2002 8:46:55 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: illstillbe
This is truly amazing, thank you for posting it!
93 posted on 09/05/2002 8:58:34 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Slip18; Cyber Liberty; dubyaismypresident; hobbes1; xsmommy; Argh; maxwell; RikaStrom; ...
Pingith.
105 posted on 09/05/2002 9:35:17 AM PDT by Neets
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To: illstillbe
To: arnold knows

Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee. 'Twould be my joy to land the first blow.

Signed : A. Patriot
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109 posted on 09/05/2002 9:52:16 AM PDT by Lorena
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To: illstillbe; OneidaM; rintense; mtngrl@vrwc; Mo1; NordP; ThePythonicCow; Sabertooth; admiralsn; ...
I hope that some who see this thread will take to heart the words of poet Robert Burns ......

Oh wad some power the giftie gie us
To see oursel’s as others see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
And foolish notion.

114 posted on 09/05/2002 10:21:45 AM PDT by kayak
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To: illstillbe
That's a lot of hard work, partner. Congratulations!
130 posted on 09/05/2002 1:17:51 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: dixie sass; *Taxreform
Ping!
178 posted on 09/07/2002 10:02:54 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: illstillbe
To: still in the woods

You and your kind have all been powdering your wigs with too heavy a hand. George Washington is right in this fight and doing all that he can to grant us victory in our Cause. I say to you that any enemy of my enemy is my friend!

Posted by: Just Cause
187 posted on 09/08/2002 2:23:54 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: illstillbe
To: arnoldknows

WE NEED PEOPLE IN COMMAND WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING!

Yeah, we need to have someone in charge who would be a true and loyal commander, someone like say, oh ..................... HORATIO GATES!!!

signed: Colonials Rule Redcoats Drool

188 posted on 09/08/2002 2:32:09 PM PDT by Lorena
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