[Lazamataz]

Why bother - I'm reading the replies on this thread which demonstrate the extreme partisanship, lack of foresight, clear misunderstanding of history and utterly abject lack of common sense on the part of those who think a bunch of executive branch 'crats deciding who is an enemy combatant without judicial oversight and absolute suspension of civil rights is a good thing.

Nossir. All you are reading is the total RINO-ization of this forum. JimRob still has the control and power to take it back from the RINOs. But if not, FR will be endorsing and applauding the likes of Olympia Snowe and John McCain, in time.

What amazes me is that I'll bet most of these people would have screamed loudly, demanding armed insurrection if this had been proposed under Clinton/Reno.

Absolutely -- but not because of love of Constitution, only for partisan gain. You have to understand, it was not a Freedom/Slavery thing, it was a Republican/Democrat thing. I didn't understand until recently.

Since about 5 or 6 months ago, the RINO's were given free reign here, and the Conservatives were not backed by moderator and forum owner alike.

It happens. Things change. So be it.

[Cold Heat]

"Since about 5 or 6 months ago, the RINO's were given free reign here, and the Conservatives were not backed by moderator and forum owner alike."

Sorry Laz, but I gotta call you on this.

I agree with most of your comments, as they are lucid and thoughtfull. But not this.............I'd like to have a long dicussion on this but I am a bit tired now so I will be as brief as possible.

First of all, I carry a copy of the Constitution with me always and distribute copies that I buy from the CATO institute at my own expense because I believe that EVERYONE should read it and refer to it daily. But yet, because of my political beliefs and my stand on law and order, drugs and wartime efforts of the justice dept., you and others would definately refer to me as a RINO. I am no such thing!

What gives you the right to determine the direction this forum takes or for that matter the direction of the republican party. Who gave you the right to define conservativism so narrowly that you exclude all but a vocal minority in the party.

We are a large and diverse group that comes to consensus on most issues. We don't always agree.

I am not a RINO! What I am is a conservative with a authoritarian leanings. I am a hawk. I believe in the two party system and I definately am not a damn RINO, CINO or whatever derogatory meaningless label you or and of the other Constitution pounders want to come up with.

You make a great mistake to attempt to narrowly define a conservative.IMHO

It is a broad term, as is liberal.