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Photos and Videos of Pearl Harbor Japanese Mini-sub
Hawai'i Undersea Research Laboratory ^ | August 2002

Posted on 09/04/2002 12:03:35 PM PDT by cogitator

Japanese midget sub found!!



TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: history; pearlharbor; sub; underwater
This is no barf alert, it's from HURL.
1 posted on 09/04/2002 12:03:36 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Oh! You found my sub! Thanks!


2 posted on 09/04/2002 12:08:14 PM PDT by mhking
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To: cogitator
May the honorable enemy rest in peace.

Uniformed sailors with a military weapon attacking a military target...at least they adhered to rules of war. 60 years later our enemy is not so admirable.

3 posted on 09/04/2002 12:12:58 PM PDT by DSHambone
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To: cogitator
The author of the web page must be a journalism grad.

Depth?

4 posted on 09/04/2002 12:16:04 PM PDT by LTCJ
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To: cogitator
I knew them Japs were "little people", just din't realize they wuz MIDGETS
5 posted on 09/04/2002 12:20:43 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: LTCJ
They might not want to release that in case divers (or overly ambitious salvagers/scavengers) could find the site. The bathymetry of the harbor is probably pretty well-mapped, so if they release the depth somebody could just go to that depth and move back and forth along that depth until they found it.

Plus, those torpedoes might still be potentially explodable.

6 posted on 09/04/2002 12:23:40 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Plus, those torpedoes might still be potentially explodable.

No doubt the navy will proceed under the assumption they still are. Plus those IJN 24 inch torpedoes packed quite a wallop.

7 posted on 09/04/2002 12:39:35 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: cogitator
Depth is approximately 1000 feet...
8 posted on 09/04/2002 1:01:02 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Vidalia
Depth is approximately 1000 feet...

Well, they clearly don't have to worry about your average one-tank recreational diver, but somebody could try to salvage it. But someone else noted in another thread on this find that it's classified as a war grave and therefore under government protection.

9 posted on 09/04/2002 1:09:11 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator; dd5339
nice link! PING!
10 posted on 09/04/2002 1:09:59 PM PDT by Vic3O3
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To: DSHambone
EXCUSE ME!

Weren't those "honorable" soldiers/sailors killed in the attempt to attack BEFORE a Declaration of War ? And didn't more of these "honorable , uniformed soldiers rape,pillage, and murder their way across the Pacific and Indochina ? And didn't their "honorable" soldiers brutally murder tens of thousands of American soldiers who had surrendered ?

I see damn little honor in the conduct of the Nipponese forces in 1937 to 1945 , other than a rigid adherence to a code that demanded unthinking obedience to false gods !

11 posted on 09/04/2002 3:26:00 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: LTCJ
The author of the web page must be a journalism grad. Depth?

My experience tells me that journalism grads severely lack depth. ;>)

12 posted on 09/04/2002 5:43:50 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: hoosierham
As to the Japanese navy attacking before the declaration of hostilitiesthis was due to problems of translating encrypted message to plain text japanese then translating japanese into english to day you can go to the Japanese Embassy and in a small room on the first floor on a polished oak desk is the Smith Corona typewriter that was used on that day . It is there as a reminder of just how serious statecraft really is .
13 posted on 09/04/2002 6:25:35 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: cogitator
Dirk Pitt and his NUMA! (I love his novels. My friend and I compete to see who has read what.)

Seriously, I thought I saw a photo showing the wake from the torpedo. Also there was an anomoly on the floor where it could be. It helps explain some of the damage.
14 posted on 09/04/2002 8:54:02 PM PDT by Chemnitz
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To: Nebr FAL owner
Here are a couple more reminders:
Attack the U.S. of A. and get your butt kicked(Iwo Jima, Okihawa, Hiroshima,Nagasaki),OR
Engage in trade of consumer items and get rich(Toyota, Honda,Sony,etc.,etc.).
15 posted on 09/05/2002 3:18:21 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: hoosierham
Those sailors & the attack force fully expected War to be declared prior to attacking...I blame not the peon for the follie of the politician.

As for the actions of the Japanese - they were products of their culture, I do not blame them and neither do I blame G. Washington or T. Jefferson for holding slaves even though it is and was morally reprehensible.

Ask a land combat vet of the Solomons or the Philipines whether all the prisoners made it safely to the rear!

Finally, it's hard to know the True God without an introduction.
16 posted on 09/05/2002 4:40:32 PM PDT by DSHambone
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To: DSHambone
I knew a combat vet of the island campaign.

He told me how,after the Japanese soldiers had killed a couple dozen medics, the Americans stopped taking prisoners and stopped trying to root the holdouts out of the caves. The GIs just tossed in a can of gasoline, a grenade or two, and bulldozed the entrance shut.And I don't blame them.

17 posted on 09/06/2002 5:17:45 PM PDT by hoosierham
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