So much for Witt the Republican! I like the way the rates raises are graduated, the "rich" get a bigger rate than everyone else.
To: Jack Black
> Even the chairman of the committee working on the proposal, Rep. Ben Westlund, R-Bend, called it "half a plan."
Maybe Oregonians can unelect all those who voted for the half assed plan.
To: Jack Black
Kruse and Doyle are the only Republicans who even have a proposal that talks about looking at ways to cut spending, and the rest of the Republican scum won't even give it a hearing. For crying out loud, the Republican congress passed a 17% budget increase this year and now they are crying about the need for more revenue to fund it. But, they won't even consider the possibility of looking at the new programs that haven't even started yet for cuts. Instead they are threatening us with closing prisons and dumping criminals back on the street; cutting three weeks off the end of the school year (even though schools are still getting a 9% increase); cutting the number of patrol officers; closing mental health group homes and dumping the residents on the street. No, they can't cut funding for public broadcasting, or the Oregon Socialized Health Plan, or CIM/CAM, or the OLCC or the Arts Council, or the Race Based Commissions, or PERS, or Dept. of no-Economic Development. Goodness no! Those are essentials. But keeping criminals in prison is expendable.
The worst part is that so many Oregonians are so bone stupid that they'll fall for it, too.
To: Jack Black
The Oregon Democrats, and too many so-called Republicans, went on a furiously-paced spending spree during the "good years", and now, instead of cutting back on all the extra government bureaucracies (read, democrat voters grateful for taxpayer-paid income), the governor and others call for HIGHER taxes on citizens already suffering from the recession.
Typical Democratic and RINO non_sense.
As for voting fraud in Oregon, how do you think the Democrats got so powerful? And maintain themselves in power? They won't give this up willingly.
Republican leadership in this state is too busy sucking up to the Democrats, hoping for crumbs, to be our knights in shining armour. We are going to have to do the work, of protecting our votes from fraud, ourselves. NOW is the time to begin to think about that and to make our plans.
To: Jack Black
Another income tax increase is poison for the economy of Oregon. If you care about Oregon and its people just don't sign on to any tax increases. Call for tax cuts; that will help Oregon recover.
7 posted on
09/03/2002 10:16:21 PM PDT by
MarkM
To: Jack Black; WaterDragon; Jolly Rodgers
The amount of the shortfall is only 3.3%. For the life of me, I can't figure out why they can't cut 3.3% from a huge budget increase!
Bill Witt is an idiot and wants nothing more than to keep his seat in the House. In fact, I believe that's all that our so-called representatives care about.
And, don't even get me started on Vera and the business climate in Portland...
" No, they can't cut funding for public broadcasting, or the Oregon Socialized Health Plan, or CIM/CAM, or the OLCC or the Arts Council, or the Race Based Commissions, or PERS, or Dept. of no-Economic Development. Goodness no! Those are essentials. But keeping criminals in prison is expendable."
"The Oregon Democrats, and too many so-called Republicans, went on a furiously-paced spending spree during the "good years", and now, instead of cutting back on all the extra government bureaucracies (read, democrat voters grateful for taxpayer-paid income), the governor and others call for HIGHER taxes on citizens already suffering from the recession."
Excellent points!
To: Jack Black
Witt said the agreement includes $290 million from a temporary, three-year increase in income tax rates; Bool-sheet!
To: Jack Black
If there are any Oregonians out there who can enlighten me on whether Oregon is a good place to go (Klamath area in particular) please email me.
To: Jack Black
There's gonna be a bloodbath at election time.
23 posted on
09/04/2002 8:58:33 PM PDT by
hove
To: Jack Black
Another state, another group of lyin' ass tax hikin', government growin', republicrats.
When is the GOP just going to just get it over with, dump the elephant and go with the R(h)ino as its mascot?
27 posted on
09/04/2002 9:24:25 PM PDT by
Jesse
To: Jack Black
"
Last week, Kitzhaber presided over a hearing in which state agency directors detailed deep cuts that would have to be made unless lawmakers approved new spending. Among them: layoffs of thousands of teachers, release of almost 4,000 state inmates because of prison closures and layoffs of more than 100 state troopers."Notice how they always attack the schools and things that affect public safety like cutting police and releasing convicts, but no cutbacks in the parasitic regulatory agencies like the DEQ, which does nothing constructive.
Kitzhaber and his democRAT cohorts have shut down the core businesses of Oregon, like the wood products industry, and now they wonder where "their" money is. Clinton cut the wood products industry back to 20% of what it was and Kitzhaber's regulatory cronies would only allow about 40% of what's left.
DUH!!!!
To: Jack Black
An amazing Editorial from the
StatesmanJournal
Legislators, your job is to make decisions
Too often, lawmakers pass on the responsibility to voters.
September 5, 2002
Here’s a challenge for the 2003 Legislature: Make the tough decisions yourselves. Don’t duck them by referring measures endlessly to voters.
That may be too much to ask of the current special session, which finally is considering a mix of borrowing, cuts and new revenue to fill a shortfall of nearly half a billion dollars. Legislators have been trying to reach a deal in time to put part of it before voters on Nov. 5.
That may be political necessity this time around. But it’s still a lousy way to do business.
All too often, Oregon legislators refer measures to voters so they won’t have to take the heat for raising taxes or fees. “I didn’t vote to raise taxes,” they can say with great innocence. “I just voted to let the people decide.”
Come on. Our state’s founders, in their wisdom, arranged for citizens to elect representatives to make decisions for the good of the state. They didn’t insist that every detail be thrown out for the populace to vote on.
Case in point: Measure 20, the
60-cent-a-pack cigarette tax hike on the Sept. 17 ballot. It was a key part of the deal that solved another budget crisis, way back in June. In this session, there’s been considerable discussion about borrowing against that money, even before it’s approved. But Measure 20 seems destined to get lost in shuffle as newer crises and solutions arise.
Part of the problem is Oregon’s initiative process run amok. Lawmakers fear that if they take a stand on a money measure, critics will gather signatures to put it on the ballot. So they leave the decision to voters, just in case.
We’ll never escape having to vote on some referrals by legislators. Any move to change the state’s constitution has to go out for a public vote. That’s why Measure 19, the rainy-day fund, is on the Sept. 17 ballot. (The Statesman Journal’s editorial board recommends a yes vote on both.)
But when it comes to lesser matters, legislators, stand up and take responsibility. If you truly believe that a tax or fee is the best thing for Oregon, have the gumption to say so directly. Make your case with Oregonians, not just one another. Take the heat; lead.
To: Jack Black
I know I will get flamed for this.
But maybe, just maybe it is time for Oregonians to start thinking about a sales tax.
To: Jack Black
only your friends can betray you. hope the rest of you pubbie koolaid drinkers start waking up to the obvious.
54 posted on
09/05/2002 11:36:35 AM PDT by
galt-jw
To: All
59 posted on
09/05/2002 6:12:40 PM PDT by
Bob J
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