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He hired a woman to serve him then he agreed with her that she would be his slave
Islam Q & A ^ | 09-03-2002 | Answers supervised by Shaikh M. S. Al-Munajjid

Posted on 09/03/2002 12:50:18 PM PDT by Salman

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If you skipped reading the whole thing but got this far, make sure you read the last point ("Eighthly").

Seems like they were humiliated on this issue in 1953.

1 posted on 09/03/2002 12:50:18 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman
But if they hadn't been defeated then they'd still be doing it?
2 posted on 09/03/2002 12:54:49 PM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Salman
Islam is composed of Barbarians. Slave women? I felt like taking a shower after reading it. Kaafir? I thought Islam was tolerant and benevolent. What a medieval mindset. It is an unacceptable mindset in the 21st century.
3 posted on 09/03/2002 12:57:11 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Salman
And I thought Dear Abby had problems...
4 posted on 09/03/2002 12:59:10 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Salman
If you skipped reading the whole thing but got this far,

By the title, I thought this was about Janet Reno and Bill Clinton.

5 posted on 09/03/2002 1:03:21 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Dog Gone
Oh, you haven't seen problems until you drop in on one of these Islamic sites for a review of 'ask the imam.' They make the Green Party, the Goths, and the reparations crowd look well-adjusted.
6 posted on 09/03/2002 1:04:06 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Salman
I wonder if Farrakhan brings this up?
7 posted on 09/03/2002 1:05:11 PM PDT by Shryke
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To: Salman
I am waiting for someone start something similar: Questions for the Kaafir
8 posted on 09/03/2002 1:16:21 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Salman
We ask Allaah to help us and you to be patient with regard to matters of our religion and to protect us from falling into evil. And Allaah knows best.

I'm sitting here at work trying to contain my laughter."Allah knows best". That is so good,I can't wait to drop that in a conversation, he says smirking. LOL

9 posted on 09/03/2002 1:18:41 PM PDT by Pagey
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A free woman cannot become a slave unless she is a kaafir woman from a state that is at war with the Muslims and the Muslims have captured her

Arm yourselves Ladies and urge that your menfolk, husbands, brothers, fathers, etc, do likewise. A few (dozen) trips to the range would also be a "Good Idea".

The avoidance of a such a fate, regardless of at whose hands it might be, is THE reason for the second amendment.

10 posted on 09/03/2002 1:21:42 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Salman
BUMP
11 posted on 09/03/2002 1:27:25 PM PDT by RippleFire
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To: Salman
Bump for reading at a later time when I need another reason to think islamic radicals are madmen.
12 posted on 09/03/2002 1:34:10 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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If you skipped reading the whole thing but got this far, make sure you read the last point ("Eighthly").

You know us, it seems... I did exactly what you predicted. Thanks for the tip about the last point.

Unbelievable even if legit. I am thankful to be here, where our advice columnists only have to deal with proper toilet seat placement and the etiquette of thank-you notes.

13 posted on 09/03/2002 1:36:08 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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This isn't the Onion?
14 posted on 09/03/2002 1:38:41 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Shryke
They can't be all bad, there was a spot on the site which forbade excessive circumcision of women and forbids mistreatment of animals, although those are items which seem to be largely ignored.

There is a big double standard though, it seems most of the prohibitions are on what is done to muslims and critters, but what may be done to Kaffirs is largely wide open.

On another part of that site, amusingly enough, they slam the US for slavery, and blame us and other 'western' countries like Japan for assorted woes, as if suicide bombing was all our idea.

Now that's hutzpah for a group which calls themselves "Allah's slaves" and which still practices slavery, a great deal of it evidently in secret and widespread even where it technically 'doesn't exist.'

All in all though, this web site is very mild compared to most of the ones I've run across.

15 posted on 09/03/2002 1:42:34 PM PDT by piasa
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Y'all gotta go see the source on this one. Polygamy, slavery, etc. are all explained in bizarre detail.
16 posted on 09/03/2002 1:45:48 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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Next she'll be demonstrating on the Mall and demanding reparations.
17 posted on 09/03/2002 1:47:17 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
But if they hadn't been defeated then they'd still be doing it?

It's still happening in Sudan.

18 posted on 09/03/2002 1:54:54 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: Salman
Eighthly:

It is rare nowadays to find slaves in the shar’i sense in which it is permissible to be intimate with them etc. That is because most of the Muslims have long since given up the obligation of jihad for the sake of Allaah, in addition to their position of weakness and humiliation before their kaafir enemies, so that many of the majority-Muslim nations have signed the protocol that expressly forbids slavery and strives to put an end to it, which was agreed upon in the United Nations in 1953.

Based on that we must be very careful in examining any case where people are bought and sold as slaves, and we must also beware of the misinterpretation of the word amah (pl. imaa’) (= slave woman) which some new Muslims understand to mean that enslavement takes place simply by paying the woman some money and agreeing to have intercourse with her. This is like prostitution which is now widespread in some immoral places, night clubs and telephone sex services.

We ask Allaah to help us and you to be patient with regard to matters of our religion and to protect us from falling into evil.

And Allaah knows best.

Let Farrakhan (Calypso Louie) and every Black Muslim in American be warned. This should be required reading for them and black prisoners.

19 posted on 09/03/2002 1:59:38 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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A free woman cannot become a slave unless she is a kaafir woman from a state that is at war with the Muslims and the Muslims have captured her.

Hmmmm... Interesting interpretation. To expand... if the Islamists feel that they are "at war" with America, and, if they "capture" young Americans (i.e. children), then since they are "kaafir", are they then slaves, to be sexually molested at the will of thier "master"???

I don't know about y'all but I have been a bit perplexed at the sheer number of kids getting abducted lately. As far as I am concerned, this is another one of the things that makes you go Hmmmmmm.....

Tell you what though. If ANY of my suposition comes to fruition, that is one dog that they sure shouldn't have messed with. THAT dog BITES!

Semper Angry

20 posted on 09/03/2002 2:01:50 PM PDT by Trident/Delta
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