Posted on 09/02/2002 3:02:49 PM PDT by Sparqi
What about them? If you have a trashy house in Hendersonville, NC, and five neighbors complain, and the code enforcers get a warrant they can check out your pig sty and make you clean it up.
I wish we had that ordinance in our city.
I've been in the Wal-Mart in Picayune and the ones in Slidell, Louisiana (near the MS border) and have noticed the same thing as you.
Unfortunately, we have one that is used only to let druggies, burglars, and killers escape punishment for their crimes. The purpose of this amendment was never to let thugs get away with crimes. The purpose was to protect innocent people from being searched without cause. The saddest thing is that so many people are ignorant of the true intent and believe that the amendment was written to help the guilty and not the innocent.
WFTR
Bill
The judges say billions are being denied their rights
Efforts to improve environmental protection worldwide have been boosted by a group of more than 100 senior judges.
They have agreed to work to strengthen the application of environmental laws wherever they exist.
They believe effective laws do exist in most countries, but that they are hard to enforce in practice.
The participants included judges from the United States, Brazil and Russia. Significantly, they were unanimous in endorsing the principles, some of which clearly run counter to the thinking of the administration in Washington.
The legal initiative is the work of the United Nations Environment Programme (Unep).
'Guardian of law'
The high court and supreme court judges met in a symposium held here last week, co-hosted by Justice Arthur Chaskalson, South Africa's chief justice. They agreed a statement, the Johannesburg Principles on the Role of Law and Sustainable Development.
This is an issue affecting billions of people who are effectively being denied their rights
Klaus Toepfer Executive director of Unep One key passage states: "We emphasise that the fragile state of the global environment requires the judiciary, as the guardian of the rule of law, to boldly and fearlessly implement and enforce applicable international and national laws which... will assist in alleviating poverty and sustaining an enduring civilisation."
The principles also "recognise that the people most affected by environmental degradation are the poor".
They say "the inequality between powerful and weak nations" places a greater responsibility on the rich to protect the environment.
Justice Chaskalson said: "The rule of law is the basis for a stable country and ultimately stable world. I am personally committed to realising and taking forward these historic principles."
Need for enforcement
"The field of law has, in many ways, been the poor relation in the world-wide effort to deliver a cleaner, healthier and ultimately fairer world," said Dr Klaus Toepfer, executive director of Unep.
US judges endorsed principles which run counter to Washington thinking
"We have over 500 international and regional agreements, treaties and deals covering everything from the protection of the ozone layer to the conservation of the oceans and seas.
U.S. Constitution: Fourth Amendment
Fourth Amendment - Search and Seizure
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
That's not the issue. They don't do that. Some little old lady or little old man sits or stands by the exit and looks at your receipt, which may say that you bought five items, and they look at your basket and see five items, they check the receipt and you go.
I'm sure that if a shopper wants to be rude and push past the little old lady or little old man at the door, that would be that. You don't think that they're going to chase after someone, do you, or demand that your wife open up her purse? If anything like that happens, it's most likely an over-zealous employee, and a rare exception to the rule, and that person will lose his or her job very quickly.
They do exactly that at the local Fry's. Open the purse, that is. She might have her concealed carry weapon in that purse. She would be required by law NOT to show her weapon. And some private company is going to try to force her to? Not.
We don't accept that situation. They don't have a right to search us. We won't shop there.
/john
Yes. Warrants are obtained, upon probable cause.
Pick up the trash, paint your house, cut your grass...you won't have any problem.
Huh? Has any store manager in your area done this, or are you just erecting a straw man?
And for God's sake vote in someone who's not a statist for local office.
/john
I've never heard of Fry's, but if that is the case (no offense, but I find that questionable), that would be way out of line. I would never submit to that.
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