North Little Rock, AR cops stand by and watch as convenience store is robbed!

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | 31 AUG 02 | BY JIM BROOKS

[A CA Guy]

I don't know why they didn't show right away?

Do we ever know if to many things have the police's already busy?

I think it is possible that they couldn't get there because they were stretched to thin.
That has happened in CA before.

I think I also have read we in CA have the least police to population ratio in this country. So I don't judge them for being late every so often.

[FormerLurker]

"Are you smoking some wacky weed ..."

That meets the definition of a personal attack and meets the criteria of being reported as abuse on this forum...

Actually a personal attack would have been if I had said that you WERE smoking "wacky weed". A question as to whether or not you are smoking wacky weed does not constitute a personal attack. It is a rather legitimate question in your case....

[marajade]

" ... as your comments are irrational and worthy of such a response."

My comments have been in support of actions of law enforcement on this thread... Is it your contention they are irrational?

[RightOnline]

I choose (b). Worse that could have happened was you get a cop who doesn't know how to make change.

[marajade]

"They knew he had a deadly weapon, and that death was a forceable consequence of the perp using it to gain compliance from the clerk."

That's right, they did... And they also received a tip that he was planning on armed robbery, not murder...

[in the Arena]

If this was the case, there would no law enforcement officers left on the street to patrol.

? I don't follow your reasoning with that statement.

[sweetliberty]

"That meets the definition of a personal attack and meets the criteria of being reported as abuse on this forum..."

What abuse. It was a question that merely suggests that the poster considers your replies illogical. Lighten up. These kinds of questions are abundant on the threads but most people take them for what they are.

[Ben Bolt]

Maybe it's more to the fact that they can not be at all places at all times my friend . Maybe it is because I alway's thought and believe that it is the police who should work in tandem with the citizens instead of the reverse .

Maybe it has to do with citizens taking it upon themselves to protect themselves knowing someday there may not be sufficent time to wait for them to respond , not to mention it is the right we have to excercise .. ?

The police had NO right to place this person directly in line nor indirectly in line with harms way . I dont see how your past direct support of the police in the past changes this in the slightest way .

[marajade]

In CA, often times many law enforcement forces just have enough personnel resources to respond from call to call because of the population they serve...

[marajade]

I'm certainly willing to test the abuse button theory if wish to continue and this will be your last chance...

[marajade]

If police posted armed unmarked officers in every situation where there were tips it would create a tremendous burden on personnel resources would it not?

[FormerLurker]

If police forces used personnel to put themselves in situations that might happen, there would be no resources left available to do what police forces are supposed to do...

Uh, if they can sit outside of the store in wait for the robbery to occur, they had enough manpower to do what has been suggested and have an undercover officer in the store in place of the clerk.

If they have enough manpower to give out speeding tickets and handle ANY police work at all, they have enough manpower to handle a possible armed robbery and homicide.

[marajade]

"Lighten up."

I take an accusation of where someone suggests I'm in the process of comitting a felony at the present time very seriously...

[sweetliberty]

"You're asking law enforcement to now predict what might happen after having received a tip to the contrary? "

What do you mean, "a tip to the contrary?" Are you saying that murder in the commision of a robbery is such a rare thing as to be negligible? Or did they receive some "tip" that guaranteed that this particular robber was harmless, and if that were the case, why didn't they nab him in the commission of the crime?

[Cultural Jihad]

You can't have it both ways. You can't whine that the police failed to prevent a robbery and then claim that everyone should not expect the police to protect anyone. By your line of reasoning, the fault lies with Mr. Black who was armed with a packing knife instead of a shotgun.

[marajade]

Maybe they felt this particular tip was legitimate... So now the police are supposed to know when tips are and aren't legimate? That's what you're suggesting and it create a tremendous burden on personnel resources...

[FormerLurker]

Is it your contention they are irrational?

Your contention is that this was great police work, the police would have been prosecuted for murder if they had shot the perp during the course of the robbery, and that the prosecution depended on the testimony of the civilian clerk, as if a police officer had been in the store it would have somehow affected the ability to prosecute the bandit.

Yep, I'd say that those contentions are irrational.

[marajade]

I'm saying we don't know how seriously the police responds to every tip in every case and this article doesn't elaborate...

[FormerLurker]

Maybe they felt this particular tip was legitimate... So now the police are supposed to know when tips are and aren't legimate? That's what you're suggesting and it create a tremendous burden on personnel resources...

If they felt the tip to be legitimate enough to stake out the store, they should have felt it legitimate enough to place an undercover officer in the store as well...

[Ben Bolt]

And dont forget the perp had a gun for goodness sakes ! Thats a new concept , a perp with a gun . God help us . I'm still waiting to hear if she would have liked being the clerk in Arkansas herself .