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Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines
Washington Report ^ | 1995 | Don Neff

Posted on 08/31/2002 4:48:31 AM PDT by gunnyg

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Middle East History?It Happened In March

Israel Charged With Systematic Harassment of U.S. Marines

By Donald Neff

March 1995, pgs. 79-81

It was 12 years ago, on March 14, 1983, that the commandant of the Marine Corps sent a highly unusual letter to the secretary of defense expressing frustration and anger at Israel. General R.H. Barrow charged that Israeli troops were deliberately threatening the lives of Marines serving as peacekeepers in Lebanon. There was, he wrote, a systematic pattern of harassment by Israel Defense Forces (IDF) that was resulting in "life-threatening situations, replete with verbal degradation of the officers, their uniform and country."

Barrow's letter added: "It is inconceivable to me why Americans serving in peacekeeping roles must be harassed, endangered by an ally...It is evident to me, and the opinion of the U.S. commanders afloat and ashore, that the incidents between the Marines and the IDF are timed, orchestrated, and executed for obtuse Israeli political purposes."1

Israel's motives were less obtuse than the diplomatic general pretended. It was widely believed then, and now, that Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, one of Israel's most Machiavellian politician-generals, was creating the incidents deliberately in an effort to convince Washington that the two forces had to coordinate their actions in order to avoid such tensions. This, of course, would have been taken by the Arabs as proof that the Marines were not really in Lebanon as neutral peacekeepers but as allies of the Israelis, a perception that would have obvious advantages for Israel.2

Barrow's extraordinary letter was indicative of the frustrations and miseries the Marines suffered during their posting to Lebanon starting on Aug. 25, 1982, as a result of Israel's invasion 11 weeks earlier. Initially a U.S. unit of 800 men was sent to Beirut harbor as part of a multinational force to monitor the evacuation of PLO guerrillas from Beirut. The Marines, President Reagan announced, "in no case... would stay longer than 30 days."3 This turned out to be only partly true. They did withdraw on Sept. 10, but a reinforced unit of 1,200 was rushed back 15 days later after the massacres at the Palestinian refugee camps at Sabra and Shatila that accompanied the Israeli seizure of West Beirut. The U.S. forces remained until Feb. 26, 1984.4

During their-year-and-a-half posting in Lebanon, the Marines suffered 268 killed.5 The casualties started within a week of the return of the Marines in September 1982. On the 30th, a U.S.-made cluster bomb left behind by the Israelis exploded, killing Corporal David Reagan and wounding three other Marines.6

Corporal Reagan's death represented the dangers of the new mission of the Marines in Lebanon. While their first brief stay had been to separate Israeli forces from Palestinian fighters evacuating West Beirut, their new mission was as part of a multinational force sent to prevent Israeli troops from attacking the Palestinian civilians left defenseless there after the withdrawal of PLO forces. As President Reagan said: "For this multinational force to succeed, it is essential that Israel withdraw from Beirut."7

"Incidents are timed, orchestrated, and executed for Israeli political purposes."

Israel's siege of Beirut during the summer of 1982 had been brutal and bloody, reaching a peak of horror on Aug. 12, quickly known as Black Thursday. On that day, Sharon's forces launched at dawn a massive artillery barrage that lasted for 11 straight hours and was accompanied by saturation air bombardment.8 As many as 500 persons, mainly Lebanese and Palestinian civilians, were killed.9

On top of the bombardment came the massacres the next month at Sabra and Shatila, where Sharon's troops allowed Lebanese Maronite killers to enter the camps filled with defenseless civilians. The massacres sickened the international community and pressure from Western capitals finally forced Israel to withdraw from Beirut in late September. Troops from Britain, France, Italy and the United States were interposed between the Israeli army and Beirut, with U.S. Marines deployed in the most sensitive area south of Beirut at the International Airport, directly between Israeli troops and West Beirut.

It was at the airport that the Marines would suffer their Calvary over the next year. Starting in January 1983, small Israeli units began probing the Marine lines. At first the effort appeared aimed at discovering the extent of Marine determination to resist penetration. The lines proved solid and the Marines' determination strong. Israeli troops were politely but firmly turned away. Soon the incidents escalated, with both sides pointing loaded weapons at each other but no firing taking place. Tensions were high enough by late January that a special meeting between U.S. and Israeli officers was held in Beirut to try to agree on precise boundaries beyond which the IDF would not penetrate.10

No Stranger to the Marines

However, on Feb. 2 a unit of three Israeli tanks, led by Israeli Lt. Col. Rafi Landsberg, tried to pass through Marine/Lebanese Army lines at Rayan University Library in south Lebanon. By this time, Landsberg was no stranger to the Marines. Since the beginning of January he had been leading small Israeli units in probes against the Marine lines, although such units would normally have a commander no higher than a sergeant or lieutenant. The suspicion grew that Sharon's troops were deliberately provoking the Marines and Landsberg was there to see that things did not get out of hand. The Israeli tactics were aimed more at forcing a joint U.S.-Israeli strategy than merely probing lines.

In the Feb. 2 incident, the checkpoint was commanded by Marine Capt. Charles Johnson, who firmly refused permission for Landsberg to advance. When two of the Israeli tanks ignored his warning to halt, Johnson leaped on Landsberg's tank with pistol drawn and demanded Landsberg and his tanks withdraw. They did.11

Landsberg and the Israeli embassy in Washington tried to laugh off the incident, implying that Johnson was a trigger-happy John Wayne type and that the media were exaggerating a routine event. Landsberg even went so far as to claim that he smelled alcohol on Johnson's breath and that drunkenness must have clouded his reason. Marines were infuriated because Johnson was well known as a teetotaler. Americans flocked to Johnson's side. He received hundreds of letters from school children, former Marines and from Commandant Barrow.12 It was a losing battle for the Israelis and Landsberg soon dropped from sight.

But the incidents did not stop. These now included "helicopter harassment," by which U.S.-made helicopters with glaring spotlights were flown by the Israelis over Marine positions at night, illuminating Marine outposts and exposing them to potential attack. As reports of these incidents piled up, Gen. Barrow received a letter on March 12 from a U.S. Army major stationed in Lebanon with the United Nations Truce Supervisory Organization (UNTSO). The letter described a systematic pattern of Israeli attacks and provocations against UNTSO troops, including instances in which U.S. officers were singled out for "near-miss" shootings, abuse and detention.13 That same day two Marine patrols were challenged and cursed by Israeli soldiers.14

Two days later Barrow wrote his letter to Secretary of Defense Caspar W. Weinberger, who endorsed it and sent it along to the State Department. High-level meetings were arranged and the incidents abated, perhaps largely because by this time Ariel Sharon had been fired as defense minister. He had been found by an Israeli commission to have had "personal responsibility" for the Sabra and Shatila massacres.15

Despite the bad taste left from the clashes with the Israelis, in fact no Marines had been killed in the incidents and their lines had been secure up to the end of winter in 1983. Then Islamic guerrillas, backed by Iran, became active. On the night of April 17, 1983, an unknown sniper fired a shot that went through the trousers of a Marine sentry but did not harm him. For the first time, the Marines returned fire.16

The next day, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was blown up by a massive bomb, with the loss of 63 lives. Among the 17 Americans killed were CIA Mideast specialists, including Robert C. Ames, the agency's top Middle East expert.17 Disaffected former Israeli Mossad case officer Victor Ostrovsky later claimed that Israel had advance information about the bombing plan but had decided not to inform the United States, a claim denied by Israel.18 The Iranian-backed Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility. Veteran correspondent John Cooley considered the attack "the day [Iranian leader Ayatollah] Khomeini's offensive against America in Lebanon began in earnest." 19

Still, it was not until four months later, on Aug. 28, that Marines came under direct fire by rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons at International Airport. They returned fire with M-16 rifles and M-60 machine guns. The firefight resumed the next day with Marines firing 155mm artillery, 81mm mortars and rockets from Cobra helicopter gunships against Shi'i Muslim positions. Two Marines were killed and 14 wounded in the exchange, the first casualties in actual combat since the Marines had landed the previous year.20

From this time on, the combat involvement of the Marines grew. Their actions were generally seen as siding with Israel against Muslims, slowly changing the status of the Marines as neutral peacekeepers to opponents of the Muslims.21 Israel could hardly have wished for more. The polarization meant that increasingly the conflict was being perceived in terms of the U.S., Israel and Lebanon's Christians against Iran, Islam and Lebanon's Shi'i Muslims.

Accelerating the Conflict

Israel accelerated the building conflict on Sept. 3, 1993 by unilaterally withdrawing its troops southward, leaving the Marines exposed behind their thin lines at the airport. The United States had asked the Israeli government to delay its withdrawal until the Marines could be replaced by units of the Lebanese army, but Israel refused.22 The result was as feared. Heavy fighting immediately broke out between the Christian Lebanese Forces and the pro-Syrian Druze units, both seeking to occupy positions evacuated by Israel, while the Marines were left in the crossfire. 23On Sept. 5, two Marines were killed and three wounded as fighting escalated between Christian and Muslim militias.24

In an ill-considered effort to subdue the combat, the Sixth Fleet frigate Bowen fired several five-inch naval guns, hitting Druze artillery positions in the Chouf Mountains that were firing into the Marine compound at Beirut airport.25 It was the first time U.S. ships had fired into Lebanon, dramatically raising the level of combat. But the Marines' exposed location on the flat terrain of the airport left them in an impossible position. On Sept. 12, three more Marines were wounded. 26

On Sept. 13, President Reagan authorized what was called aggressive self-defense for the Marines, including air and naval strikes.27 Five days later the United States essentially joined the war against the Muslims when four U.S. warships unleashed the heaviest naval bombardment since Vietnam into Syrian and Druze positions in eastern Lebanon in support of the Lebanese Christians.28 The bombardment lasted for three days and was personally ordered by National Security Council director Robert McFarlane, a Marine Corps officer detailed to the White House who was in Lebanon at the time and was also a strong supporter of Israel and its Lebanese Maronite Christian allies. McFarlane issued the order despite the fact that the Marine commander at the airport, Colonel Timothy Geraghty, strenuously argued against it because, in the words of correspondent Thomas L. Friedman, "he knew that it would make his soldiers party to what was now clearly an intra-Lebanese fight, and that the Lebanese Muslims would not retaliate against the Navy's ships at sea but against the Marines on shore." 29

By now, the Marines were under daily attack and Muslims were charging they were no longer neutral.30 At the same time the battleship USS New Jersey, with 16-inch guns, arrived off Lebanon, increasing the number of U.S. warships offshore to 14. Similarly, the Marine contingent at Beirut airport was increased from 1,200 to 1,600.31

A Tragic Climax

The fight now was truly joined between the Shi'i Muslims and the Marines, who were essentially pinned down in their airport bunkers and under orders not to take offensive actions. The tragic climax of their predicament came on Oct. 23, when a Muslim guerrilla drove a truck past guards at the Marine airport compound and detonated an explosive with the force of 12,000 pounds of dynamite under a building housing Marines and other U.S. personnel. Almost simultaneously, a car-bomb exploded at the French compound in Beirut. Casualties were 241 Americans and 58 French troops killed. The bombings were the work of Hezbollah, made up of Shi'i Muslim guerrillas supported by Iran.32

America's agony increased on Dec. 3, when two carrier planes were downed by Syrian missiles during heavy U.S. air raids on eastern Lebanon.33On the same day, eight Marines were killed in fighting with Muslim militiamen around the Beirut airport.34

By the start of 1984, an all-out Shi'i Muslim campaign to rid Lebanon of all Americans was underway. The highly respected president of the American University of Beirut, Dr. Malcolm Kerr, a distinguished scholar of the Arab world, was gunned down on Jan. 18 outside his office by Islamic militants aligned with Iran.35 On Feb. 5, Reagan made one of his stand-tall speeches by saying that "the situation in Lebanon is difficult, frustrating and dangerous. But this is no reason to turn our backs on friends and to cut and run."36

The next day Professor Frank Regier, a U.S. citizen teaching at AUB, was kidnapped by Muslim radicals.37 Regier's kidnapping was the beginning of a series of kidnappings of Americans in Beirut that would hound the Reagan and later the Bush administrations for years and lead to the eventual expulsion of nearly all Americans from Lebanon where they had prospered for more than a century. Even today Americans still are prohibited from traveling to Lebanon.

The day after Regier's kidnapping, on Feb. 7, 1984, Reagan suddenly reversed himself and announced that all U.S. Marines would shortly be "redeployed." The next day the battleship USS New Jersey fired 290 rounds of one-ton shells from its 16-inch guns into Lebanon as a final act of U.S. frustration.38 Reagan's "redeployment" was completed by Feb. 26, when the last of the Marines retreated from Lebanon.

The mission of the Marines had been a humiliating failure?not because they failed in their duty but because the political backbone in Washington was lacking. The Marines had arrived in 1982 with all sides welcoming them. They left in 1984 despised by many and the object of attacks by Muslims. Even relations with Israel were strained, if not in Washington where a sympathetic Congress granted increased aid to the Jewish state to compensate it for the costs of its bungled invasion, then between the Marines and Israeli troops who had confronted each other in a realpolitik battlefield that was beyond their competence or understanding. The Marine experience in Lebanon did not contribute toward a favorable impression of Israel among many Americans, especially since the Marines would not have been in Lebanon except for Israel's unprovoked invasion.

This negative result is perhaps one reason a number of Israelis and their supporters today oppose sending U.S. peacekeepers to the Golan Heights as part of a possible Israeli-Syrian peace treaty. A repeat of the 1982-84 experience would certainly not be in Israel's interests at a time when its supporters are seeking to have a budget-conscious Congress continue unprecedented amounts of aid to Israel.

RECOMMENDED READING:

Ball, George, Error and Betrayal in Lebanon, Washington, DC, Foundation for Middle East Peace, 1984.

*Cockburn, Andrew and Leslie Cockburn, Dangerous Liaison: The Inside Story of the U.S.-Israeli Covert Relationship, New York, Harper Collins, 1991.

Cooley, John K., Payback: America's Long War in the Middle East , New York, Brassey's U.S., Inc., 1991.

*Findley, Paul, Deliberate Deceptions: Facing the Facts About the U.S.-Israeli Relationship, Brooklyn, NY, Lawrence Hill Books, 1993.

Fisk, Robert, Pity the Nation: The Abduction of Lebanon, New York, Atheneum, 1990.

Frank, Benis M., U.S. Marines in Lebanon: 1982-1984, History and Museums Division, Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps, Washington, DC, 1987.

*Friedman, Thomas L., From Beirut to Jerusalem, New York, Farrar, Strauss, Giroux, 1989.

*Green, Stephen, Living by the Sword, Amana, 1988.

*Jansen, Michael, The Battle of Beirut: Why Israel Invaded Lebanon , London, Zed Press, 1982.

MacBride, Sean, Israel in Lebanon: The Report of the International Commission to enquire into reported violations of international law by Israel during its invasion of Lebanon , London, Ithaca Press, 1983.

Ostrovsky, Victor and Claire Hoy, By Way of Deception, New York, St. Martin's Press, 1990.

Peck, Juliana S., The Reagan Administration and the Palestinian Question: The First Thousand Days , Washington, DC, Institute for Palestine Studies, 1984.

*Randal, Jonathan, Going all the Way, New York, The Viking Press, 1983.

Schechla, Joseph, The Iron Fist: Israel's Occupation of South Lebanon, 1982-1985 , Washington, D.C.: ADC Research Institute, Issue Paper No. 17, 1985.

*Schiff, Ze'ev and Ehud Ya'ari, Israel's Lebanon War, New York, Simon and Schuster, 1984.

Timerman, Jacobo, The Longest War: Israel in Lebanon, New York, Vantage Books, 1982.

Woodward, Bob, Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981-1987, New York, Simon and Schuster, 1987.

* Available through the AET Book Club.

NOTES:

1 New York Times, 3/18/83. For a detailed review of these clashes, see Green, Living by the Sword, pp. 177-92, and Clyde Mark, "The Multinational Force in Lebanon," Congressional Research Service, 5/19/83.

2 See "NBC Nightly News," 6:30 PM EST, 3/17/86; also, George C. Wilson, Washington Post, 2/5/83.

3 Ball, Error and Betrayal in Lebanon, p. 51; Cooley, Payback, pp. 69-71.

4 Frank, U.S Marines in Lebanon: 1982-1984, p. 137.

5 Frank, U.S. Marines in Lebanon: 1982-1984 , Appendix F.

6 New York Times, 10/1/82. Also see Cooley, Payback, p. 71; Green, Living by the Sword, pp. 175-77

7 The text is in New York Times, 9/30/82. Also see Peck, The Reagan Administration and the Palestinian Question, p. 76.

8 Schiff & Ya'ari, Israel's Lebanon War, p. 225.

9 "Chronology of the Israeli Invasion of Lebanon," Journal of Palestine Studies, Summer/Fall 1982, p. 189.

10 Green, Living by the Sword, pp. 178-80.

11 Frank, U.S Marines in Lebanon: 1982-1984, pp. 45-46.

12 Ibid.

13 Green, Living by the Sword, p. 182.

14 Frank, U.S Marines in Lebanon: 1982-1984, p. 56.

15 New York Times, 2/9/83; "Final Report of the Israeli Commission of Inquiry," Journal of Palestine Studies, Spring 1983, pp. 89-116.

16 Frank, U.S Marines in Lebanon: 1982-1984, p. 56.

17 New York Times, 4/22/83 and 4/26/83. For more detail on CIA victims, see Charles R Babcock, Washington Post, 8/5/86, and Woodward, Veil, pp. 244-45.

18 Ostrovsky, By Way of Deception, p. 321.

19 Cooley, Payback, p. 76.

20 New York Times, 8/30/83.

21 Ball, Error and Betrayal in Lebanon, pp. 75-77.

22 New York Times, 9/5/83.

23 Fisk, Pity the Nation, pp. 489-91; Friedman, From Beirut to Jerusalem, p. 179.

24 New York Times, 9/6/83.

25 Fisk, Pity the Nation, p. 505.

26 New York Times, 9/14/83.

27 New York Times , 9/13/83.

28 Philip Taubman and Joel Brinkley, New York Times, 12/11/83. Also see Cockburn, Dangerous Liaison, p. 335; Fisk, Pity the Nation, p. 505; Friedman, From Beirut to Jerusalem , p. 210.

29 Friedman, From Beirut to Jerusalem, pp. 200-01. Also see Green, Living by the Sword, pp. 190-92.

30 New York Times, 9/29/83.

31 New York Times, 9/25/83; David Koff, "Chronology of the War in Lebanon, Sept.-November, 1983," Journal of Palestine Studies, Winter 1984, pp. 133-35.

32 Philip Taubman and Joel Brinkley, New York Times, 12/11/83. Also see Cooley, Payback, pp. 80-91; Fisk, Pity the Nation, pp. 511-22; Friedman, From Beirut to Jerusalem, pp. 201-4; Woodward, Veil, pp. 285-87.

33 New York Times , 1/4/84; Cooley, Payback, pp. 95-97.

34 New York Times, 12/4/83.

35 New York Times, 1/19/84. Also see New York Times, 1/29/84, and Cooley, Payback, p. 75. For a chronology of attacks against Americans in this period, see the Atlanta Journal, 1/31/85.

36 Fisk, Pity the Nation, p. 533.

37 New York Times, 4/16/84. Also see Cooley, Payback , p. 111; Fisk, Pity the Nation, p. 565.

38 Cooley, Payback, p. 102; Fisk, Pity the Nation, p. 533; Friedman, From Beirut to Jerusalem, p. 220.

Donald Neff is author of the Warriors trilogy on U.S.-Middle East relations and of the unpublished Middle East Handbook, a chronological data bank of significant events affecting U.S policy and the Middle East upon which this article is based. His books are available through the AET Book Club. <./back.gif> <./current.gif> <./dailynews.gif> <./wrmeanews.gif> <./resources.gif> <./activists.gif> <./subscribe.gif> <./contact.gif> <./about.gif> <./home.gif>


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To: hangin' chad
Resorting to profanity now

Not really. It was a bit redacted for the sensitive ones among us, you know. But actually it was just to nudge your little "identity problem". Pointing out your need for teraphy, as it were. Although there is a school of thought that your sort of problem is incurable.

I really got your goat

Whoa! You ain't getting at my goat, boy. Nor my sheep either. If I ever catch you near my livestock you'll get acquainted with rock salt travelling much faster than rock salt usually does.

Stick to your local leather boys, dangle. It's been fun meeting you. Weird and freaky but fun ;).

*PLONK*

181 posted on 09/04/2002 8:26:42 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: hangin' chad
You are not too bright are you? I suppose I must spell it out again for you.

The Zionist Organization of America supports the initiative by U.S. Congressman Steve Rothman (D-NJ) to expose and challenge the bigotry that has been published in issues of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Statements that have recently appeared in the Washington Report include:

"The Nazis may have killed 3 million, not 6 million, Jews." The May/June 1998 issue published an article which claimed there is "new evidence" suggesting that far fewer than six million Jews were murdered by the Nazis. "This new evidence, if true, would cut in half the Zionists' original claim that six million Jews had died under the Nazi regime. It would also raise the questions of, 'Why did the Zionists grossly exaggerate the original numbers of Jewish victims?'" The article was authored by William Hughes, identified as "a Baltimore based writer and radio commentator."

[When one of the Washington Report's columnists wrote in to complain about Hughes' references to the Holocaust, the editors refused to retract or apologize, stating only: "It appears that we got well beyond our depth here, with readers offering objections to implications that were unintended, overlooked, or both." That was followed by a letter from a Polish American official complaining about Hughes' reference to Auschwitz as "a Polish death camp." To that complain, the editors replied: "Clearly the author (and the editors must share the blame) did not mean to imply that the camp established in Nazi-occupied Poland was operated by Poles." (September 1998)

"Most major newspapers are owned by Jews." A study by AIPAC (Near East Report, July 27, 1998) noted the Washington Report's references to Jews controlling the media: "[E]very New York daily newspaper...is Jewish owned...Technically speaking, the Washington Post...is not Jewish-owned. But it is owned by the descendants of the late Eugene Meyer, who was Jewish...The newspaper's executive editor and its editorial page editor and her deputy are all Jewish...The Newhouse publications are Jewish-owned...Only one national daily newspaper, The Christian Science Monitor,...[is] not answerable to Jewish owners and is not dependent upon Jewish-owned businesses" (December 1997).

"Israel-firsters are to blame for the Monica Lewinsky scandal." Responding to a reader's letter, the editors of the Washington Report wrote in the May-June 1998 issue: "What we suspect is that Newsweek and others who have known elements of the Monica story for months might not have broken it so suddenly and sensationally if Bill Clinton had not outlived his usefulness to the Israel-firsters. We believe some of them concluded that Israel's purposes might be better served if Al Gore finished out Bill Clinton's second term." "Most senior U.S. government officials are Jews." "In the State Department, the occupant of every position designated for assistant secretaries of state for regional affairs is Jewish or soon will be...[A] large percentage of other top-echelon State Department political appointees and ambassadors are Jewish...So are a lot of other White House policymakers...[In Health and Human Services] most...second echelon officials are Jewish. So are a remarkably high percentage of top officials in the National Institutes of Health...At the Pentagon and CIA, at political appointee levels...things are not that different." (January-February 1998).

"Zionists in the U.S. media and Hollywood." After the Holocaust, "Americans, who had no role in the persecution of Europe's Jews, also were so remote from the Middle East that they didn't know who or where the Palestinians were. So the Americans could be manipulated by dedicated Zionists in the U.S. media and Hollywood to identify with the Jewish aggressors rather than the dispossessed Muslim and Christian victims." (Richard H. Curtiss, executive editor of the Washington Report, in the June-July 1997 issue.)

"Israel controls Congress, the media, the White House and the State Department." "The mainstream media and Congress always were Israeli-occupied territory. Now so are the White House and the State Department." ("Publishers' Page," June-July 1997 issue.)

"Israel is planning a Nazi-style 'Final Solution'." "Israel's Likud government almost certainly will begin looking for a chance, during the chaos it is orchestrating, to begin on a mass scale what the Likud Party calls the 'transfer' of the Palestinians. The Serbs called it 'ethnic cleansing,' Hitler called it 'the final solution,' the world calls it genocide. They're all synonyms for the deadly program Binyamin Netanyahu seems to be setting in motion, while the Clinton administration says not a word." ("Publishers' Page," January -February 1997 issue)

"Racist, Bigoted, Genocidal Zionazis." "Pro-Israel PACs heedlessly put Americans on the side of Racist, Bigoted, Genocidal Zionazis [sic] in the Middle East, and thus ensure that American tourists, businesspeople, and servicemembers continue to be killed there." (From the "Publishers' Page," June 1995 issue) "Supporters of Israel are a monstrous cancer." The Detroit Jewish News published an investigative report on the Washington Report on January 1, 1993. It noted that an Anti-Defamation League study of the Washington Report found that "it has referred to American Jewish supporters of Israel as a 'monstrous cancer in the American body politic' and accused 'Israel's supporters' of 'occupying influential positions throughout U.S. society--not just in the media...' This is standard anti-Semitic rhetoric."

Now, until you can prove that anything in this post as regards to the fact that the lies about Israel posted above did not appear in the Washington Report I will have to assume you agree with the lies, and are therefore a liar, or, you are unable to admit that I did what you have been whining about, and posted proof of lies about Israel in the Washington Report.

Going to step up to the plate? Parenthetically, Rudy Giuliani has stated he considers Pollard's sentence too severe. Dare you impugn his loyalty too?

I will check back to see if you have been able to disprove my post in any manner.

182 posted on 09/04/2002 8:41:41 AM PDT by Becwin
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To: Publius6961; Cachelot
Do you think clangin' chad will be able to disprove anything in my post? Nailed him I did. :-}
183 posted on 09/04/2002 8:45:30 AM PDT by Becwin
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To: hangin' chad
And here is more for you to chew on chad, from your favorite truth-teller, The Washington Report.

Bush’s Speech an Unhappy Ending to Hopes of U.S. Role Toward Mideast Peace - By Richard H. Curtiss

The day of reckoning—when President George W. Bush had to make up his mind about what to do to end the Middle East impasse—finally had come. There had been some strange false starts, such as when Bush incongruously referred to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as a “man of peace.” That was corrected. Now it was time for Bush’s long-awaited speech laying out his vision for peace.

Within the tight-lipped Bush White House it was obvious that there were serious differences of opinion and misgivings. Clearly, Vice President Richard Cheney and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld did not agree with Secretary of State Colin Powell. Nevertheless, the administration finally seemed ready to go ahead with unveiling a peace plan.

I don't recall Bush in any way taking back his statement about Sharon. So there is a lie right there.

Your buddies at the Washington Report don't have much use for our President that is clear.

184 posted on 09/04/2002 8:59:04 AM PDT by Becwin
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To: Becwin
Now, until you can prove that anything in this post as regards to the fact that the lies about Israel posted above did not appear in the Washington Report I will have to assume you agree with the lies

Where are the "lies about Israel"? There may be some issues you disagree with, but that is not a lie. It is an opinion. You see, everyone doesn't think just like you (thank God). A difference of opinion is not a lie. I know this is hard for you to understand. You see, the Zionist Organization of America thinks that Jonathan Pollard should be pardoned. I don't, because the bas---- spyed against my country while on the payroll of Israel. This is not a "lie" on the part of the ZOA, its an opinion...get the difference?

185 posted on 09/04/2002 10:02:09 PM PDT by hangin' chad
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To: hangin' chad
"The Nazis may have killed 3 million, not 6 million, Jews." The May/June 1998 issue published an article which claimed there is "new evidence" suggesting that far fewer than six million Jews were murdered by the Nazis."

Let's start with this one.

Please provide the "new evidence" that "far fewer" than six million Jews were murdered by the Nazis.

If you cannot, they lied at The Washington Report about all Jews in fact.

Unless you are into Holocaust denial of course. Then we can move on to the next lie.

I notice you concede they lied about Bush. And you consider it an "opinion" that "the Jewish Lobby" is responsible for the the Monica Lewinsky Bill Clinton scandal. Try and stick to THE FACTS (or non facts) of what was in The Washington Report, rather than bringing up the strawman of Pollard.

186 posted on 09/05/2002 6:38:33 AM PDT by Becwin
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To: hangin' chad
And when you are done trying to dig yourself out of the hole regarding the lies they published about the Holocaust, we can get your opinion on these fibs.

"Israel controls Congress, the media, the White House and the State Department." "The mainstream media and Congress always were Israeli-occupied territory. Now so are the White House and the State Department." ("Publishers' Page," June-July 1997 issue.)

"Israel is planning a Nazi-style 'Final Solution.'

187 posted on 09/05/2002 6:42:02 AM PDT by Becwin
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To: Becwin
"Israel is planning a Nazi-style 'Final Solution.'

Well let's see, we have a group of people who are militarily superior, believe that they are the chosen ones (racially superior), put people in ghettos (or refugee camps)and use their labor. Meanwhile, they systematically kill off the folks in the ghetto and attempt to destroy their cultural cohesion. Does any of this sound familiar to you?

188 posted on 09/05/2002 8:41:55 PM PDT by hangin' chad
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To: gunnyg
http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1355
189 posted on 09/18/2002 8:00:23 AM PDT by gunnyg
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