CNNTIME POLL: SUPPORT DROPPING FOR SENDING U.S. TROOPS TO IRAQ

Drudge Report ^ | 30 August 2002 | Matt Drudge

[Asmodeus]

Support has fallen for sending U.S. ground troops to Iraq to oust Saddam Hussein, according to a new TIME/CNN Poll. Only 51 percent of Americans are now in favor, from 70 percent in December, (Opposed are 40% now, v. 22% in December.)

Most Americans (65%) agree with the Bush administration's argument that the U.S. would be morally justified in invading Iraq to remove Saddam from power (26% say it would be unjustified). But nearly half (49%) say that action would lead to a long and costly war before the U.S. could claim victory. One in seven (15%) believe the U.S. would eventually have to withdraw from Iraq without a victory.

Large majorities say that military action in Iraq would lead to higher oil prices (88%), greater instability in the Middle East (74%), and an increased chance of terrorism in the U.S. (77%).

The President needs to get Congressional authorization before taking action, most Americans (68%) believe (28% approve of using force without authorization). Half (53%) don't think Bush is moving too quickly to war with Iraq (40% believe he is).

Support for war with Iraq is lowest among senior citizens, college graduates and low-income Americans. Liberals oppose military action in Iraq (although they supported it in December. Moderates are split, leaving only conservatives unquestionably in favor of sending troops to Iraq. Other results:

* Bush Approval Rating Down: George Bush's approval rating of 65% is the lowest it has been since before last Sept. 11 (the "high" was 89% Oct. 12; it was 55% July 17-18, 2001 before jumping to 78% Sept. 13).

* Economy: For the first time since 1995 a majority (52%) say the economy is in "poor" or "very poor" shape. A thin majority (52%) say Bush is doing a good job on the economy.

* Colin Powell's "Favorable" Ratings Are the Highest: Powell is the most popular Administration figure (rated favorably by 78%), v. Bush (69%), Rumsfeld (51%) and Cheney (49%).

* Rudy Giuliani Very Popular: New York's former Mayor (76%) is almost as popular as Powell.

The TIME/CNN Poll was conducted Aug. 28-29 among 1,004 adults.

Developing...

[Torie]

Is that from the Chrispen's Day speech, or however it is spelled or called? IF so, that is one of the gleaming jewels of English literature, or literature in any language.

[Howlin]

Check it out:

Right here

[Miss Marple]

Well, the dems have dug themselves in a hole, by insisting on hearings and a debate. Cheney said that the Presidient had told all of his national security team (I would assume this is Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Tenet) that they were to testify.

Leahy against Cheney should be fun to watch. Ha!

Personally, I think they have all sorts of evidence, and we will probably be shown aerial photos, transcripts of e-mails and phone calls, testimony by defectors and agents, etc.

I am SO looking forward to this. And you are quite right....his numbers will go up.

[nunya bidness]

Third possibility: We never intended to invade Iraq.

[PhilDragoo]

CNN also deems the United States as the aggressor in the Cold War, considers the Soviet Union to have been actively pursuing peace.

Time boasted Strobe Talbott on its masthead at a time when he confidently predicted the end of the nation-state.

CNN has brought us the nonexistent Operation Tailwind and the nonexistent No Gun Ri Massacre.

Time and CNN are the last best hope for Gorbachev and the return of World Communism in the guise of tree-sitters, global-warmers and caviar-eating sustainable-developers.

They called their skewed demos and fed them push polls and the rats pushed the bar for a food pellet. Skinner box results.

Headline: SUPPORT DROPPING FOR CNNTIME POLLS

[Torie]

Wasn't Sept 11 about domestic airlines? Bush was wise to drop this one. We have freaked out over airplanes, when sealed cockpit doors would have done it. The next attack, if one ensues, and we all hope it does not, will be effected in all probability by a different MO.

[Torie]

There has been an awful lot of buildup to such a climatic ending. That would make very poor material for a novel.

[Howlin]

I'm with you on that one! I just cannot believe that we'd broadcast it like we have.

But, of course, I've been accused of being dense before!

[Torie]

climatic = anti climatic. I hate when that happens.

[txrangerette]

So what is the analysis of this poll?
Seems strange...the markets are better
now than when Bush rated higher in
prior polls(on the economy). Second
qtr. growth sagged but first qtr. was
terrific. Productivity is soaring. The
consumer HAS money but is spending a
bit less. Corporate investment is now
taking up the slack. Housing & autos
are GOOD! Is the poll flawed or real?
AS FOR IRAQ, BUSH HAS YET TO TAKE ONE
BIG SHOT AT PUBLIC OPINION. He will!!!

[PoorMuttly]

Tell clinton. He listens to polls...so he doesn't have to be a man.

BTW, I don't capitalize his last name, in respect for the decent Clintons who he has thoroughly disgraced.

[metalbird1]

From CNN/TIME,
*Bush Approval Rating Down: George Bush's approval rating of 65% is the lowest it has been since before last Sept. 11 (the "high" was 89% Oct. 12; it was 55% July 17-18, 2001 before jumping to 78% Sept. 13).

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FreeRepublic Poll:
Question ...
How do you rate President Bush's overall job performance?

Excellent
2,073 votes - 37%

Good
1,583 votes - 28%

Fair
1,000 votes - 17%

Poor
803 votes - 14%

No Comment
99 votes - 1%

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Interesting. If you add "Good" & "Excellent"
from the FR poll, you come out with the
identical rating as the CNN/TIME poll.
Anyone care to venture an explanation?

[Texasforever]

I sort of predicted this a few weeks ago. The American public is ready to "move on"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/721240/posts

[Miss Marple]

This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

[Sungirl]

Who cares what this clinton loving ~~ garbage spewing ~~station says.

[EGPWS]

"Support for war with Iraq is lowest among senior citizens, college graduates and low-income Americans."

Gee, the trough feeders speak out. What is most important to ME, today and NOW!

No offense intended to the over achievers or the elderly in general but I do sense a concern to the direction of TAX DOLLAR FLOW in certain groups of people with this poll.

[Torie]

Thanks. Shear magic. Did you see the movie?

[section9]

In all of Shakespeare, there is no more stirring a passage than that enunciated by King Henry V before his little army at Agincourt. I shall not reproduce it here, as that would require Formatting Hell, but I love it just the same.

Henry V, Act IV, Scene III.

And yes, it is the "St. Crispian's Day" oration.

Whenever you doubt whether or not we shall prevail in this war against Islamic Fascism, reread that speech. It is in the great tradition of Pericles' Funeral Oration. It gives you the reason, the very soul of the West, as to why we shall, in the end, prevail.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[Torie]

Thanks Chris. I agree, totally.

[txrangerette]

Move on where? To beyond Terrorism?
To beyond madman Saddam who swears to
kill us all? Uhhhhhhhhh...pardon me...
did anyone think to inform the enemy?
Give us a freakin' break? Is America
so stupid? It must be proven to me!