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Iraq Tells U.S. It's No Afghanistan
Reuters ^ | 8/30/02 | Nadim Ladki

Posted on 08/30/2002 9:57:21 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

Iraq said on Friday the United States would not be able to bring down President Saddam Hussein the same way it toppled Afghanistan's Taliban, as Washington pressed ahead with the case for action against the Iraqi leader.

The United States ignored calls for a new U.N. Security Council resolution to approve any American military action against Iraq as its key ally British Prime Minister Tony Blair faced opposition from his own party to a U.S.-led attack.

In a sign of rising tension, U.S. jets attacked an anti-aircraft missile site in a "no-fly" zone of southern Iraq in response to what the U.S. military said were repeated Iraqi attempts to shoot down American and British jets patrolling the zone. It was the eighth raid in less than two weeks.

A top United Nations arms inspector also said Iraqi reluctance to allow new inspections could suggest it may be hiding biological weapons.

Iraqi Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan said Washington knew it would not be able to overthrow Saddam the same way it ousted the Taliban.

"We don't want to compare the two; Iraq is not Afghanistan," Ramadan told reporters in Beirut. "I believe that the U.S. administration is convinced of that."

Iraqi opposition sources said they were planning to meet in September to elect a government backed by the United States.

But Ramadan said: "This talk about the Iraqi opposition is insignificant, something that doesn't merit a reply. It doesn't exist, and has no roots on the ground in Iraq."

On Thursday Vice President Dick Cheney hammered home Washington's case for pre-emptive action against Baghdad, brushing off a groundswell of unease among European allies, Muslim states and broader world public opinion.

President Bush, without directly mentioning Iraq or Saddam, reinforced the message in fund-raising speeches in Arkansas and Oklahoma.

"We owe it to our children, we owe it to our grandchildren to make sure that the world's worst leaders do not develop and deploy the world's worst weapons," Bush said.

But despite the drumbeat sounded by the Bush administration, military and security experts say U.S. plans remain shrouded in uncertainty and a war with Iraq could still be months away.

They said they saw few signs of the kind of buildup required for a ground invasion of Iraq, or even of a consensus on what shape it should take.

U.S. SILENT ON POSSIBLE U.N. RESOLUTION

At the United Nations, talk about a new U.N. Security Council resolution to approve any American military action against Iraq was gaining momentum though discussions around the world were still at an early stage.

Most Security Council diplomats argue that without another resolution, existing measures do not provide a legal basis for a "regime change" -- Bush's euphemism for overthrowing Saddam whom he accuses of developing weapons of mass destruction.

Russia and China oppose military action. France, another veto-bearing council member, has called for a Security Council vote with President Jacques Chirac criticising attempts to legitimise the "unilateral and pre-emptive use of force."

And in Britain, whose position is closest to the United States, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said he would consider a report by a parliamentary committee to propose a U.N. deadline to readmit weapons inspectors.

The arms experts left Iraq in December 1998 on the eve of a U.S.-British bombing raid and have not been allowed to return.

Gabriele Kraatz-Wadsack, who led past biological weapons inspections, derided Iraq's efforts this week to disprove any development of chemical or biological weapons by showing facilities to journalists, saying reporters were not weapons experts.

Asked if Iraq had something to hide, she replied: "Apparently it seems (so) because also the new mandate for the new commission was passed by the Security Council in 1999 and they have not admitted the inspectors back."

BLAIR UNDER PRESSURE

A survey in London on Friday showed Britain's Blair faced stiff opposition from the grassroots of his own Labour Party if he backed a U.S.-led attack on Iraq.

The Times newspaper found 60 out of 100 Labour constituency leaders "expressed strong opposition" to a war against Saddam. Only five said they would support Blair if he decided to commit British troops to any military action.

In Amman, officials and diplomats said although Jordan might have deep misgivings about a U.S. attack on Iraq, the kingdom which sat on the fence in the 1991 Gulf War would have no choice but to join a U.S.-led campaign.

But Jordan, a pivotal U.S. ally in the Middle East, hoped any military action would be brief because of fears a prolonged war could go dangerously wrong and wreak havoc in a volatile region, they said.

The United States sent a conciliatory message to another key Arab ally, Saudi Arabia. Secretary of State Colin Powell said ties with Riyadh were strong.

But in remarks published in the London-based Ashraq al-Awsat Arabic-language newspaper, Powell cautioned: "There are more things that Saudi Arabia can do and we always explore cooperation aspects with the Saudi leadership."

Saudi Arabia, which played a pivotal role in the Gulf War, has said it will not allow U.S. forces to use its soil to launch an attack on Baghdad.


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1 posted on 08/30/2002 9:57:21 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jack-A-Roe
Us troops killed in Gulf war 157..Iraqi troops killed 100,000..

NEWS AND INFO ON IRAQ HERE TargetIraq.com

2 posted on 08/30/2002 9:59:50 AM PDT by newsperson999
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"Iraq is not Afghanistan..."

Yeah, I don't recall hearing about hundreds of Taliban or Al Qaeda surrendering to journalists.

3 posted on 08/30/2002 10:01:40 AM PDT by PrivateIdaho
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To: Jack-A-Roe
That's correct: Iraq is not Afghanistan; It's flatter.

They have nowhere to hide...
4 posted on 08/30/2002 10:02:15 AM PDT by LouD
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To: Jack-A-Roe
Check out the Attack on Iraq Betting Pool
5 posted on 08/30/2002 10:02:55 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon
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To: Jack-A-Roe
"Iraq is not Afghanistan..."

Of course not. Afghanistan has a future.

6 posted on 08/30/2002 10:02:56 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Jack-A-Roe
Good grief, if we could capture all this Islamic hot air we could float a fleet of dirigibles and not worry about B-52s.
7 posted on 08/30/2002 10:05:34 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jack-A-Roe
They're right..........the Taliban were tougher. These candy asses will fold like a soggy, year-old newspaper.
8 posted on 08/30/2002 10:07:33 AM PDT by RightOnline
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Iraq said on Friday the United States would not be able to bring down President Saddam Hussein the same way it toppled Afghanistan's Taliban...

Not a problem. We're all about "diversity" these days...

9 posted on 08/30/2002 10:07:40 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Jack-A-Roe
Next year's headline:

"Iran Tells U.S. It's No Iraq"

10 posted on 08/30/2002 10:09:49 AM PDT by SMASH IMPERIALIST LIBERALISM!!
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To: LouD
That's correct: Iraq is not Afghanistan; It's flatter. They have nowhere to hide...

Not to mention the fact that they have a more or less traditional army - uniforms and everything!

11 posted on 08/30/2002 10:11:44 AM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: Billthedrill
What do you suppose they were planning to fill all those balloons, that were supposed to disrupt our bombs, with???
12 posted on 08/30/2002 10:13:34 AM PDT by Noslrac
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To: Jack-A-Roe
Iraq!

Should be called Icrack!

13 posted on 08/30/2002 10:17:26 AM PDT by rockfish59
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To: PrivateIdaho
Excellent point - I'd like to ask a serviceman who fought both in Iraq and in Afghanistan what his opinion is of the two in terms of fighting men. Care to make a wager on the answer?
14 posted on 08/30/2002 10:25:10 AM PDT by johnb838
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To: Jack-A-Roe
yeah, and the taliban told us Afghanistan is no Iraq....piss off Iraq, your ass is grass
15 posted on 08/30/2002 10:26:58 AM PDT by galt-jw
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Iraq Tells U.S. It's No Afghanistan

To quote Ralph Peters, "American troops went through the Iraqi Army faster than Lizzie Grubman could back an SUV through a Hamptons Party."

16 posted on 08/30/2002 10:27:02 AM PDT by Poohbah
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Your no Japan or Nazi Germany either. If these idiots could fight or work as hard as they blow smoke they would be the dominant world culture.
17 posted on 08/30/2002 10:27:09 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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To: newsperson999
"... Us troops killed in Gulf war 157..Iraqi troops killed 100,000.."

I thought the estimated number of Iraqi dead was reported to be as high as 400,000.

That said, I hope it was the lower number. Those poor bastards were thrown into a meatgrinder by their fiendish dictator.

18 posted on 08/30/2002 10:28:12 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Jack-A-Roe
That's right. It's Panama. And Noreiga needs a cellmate.
19 posted on 08/30/2002 10:30:54 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: SMASH IMPERIALIST LIBERALISM!!
Next year's headline:

"Iran Tells U.S. It's No Iraq"

2004 Headline:

"North Korea Tells U.S. It's No Iran."

2005 Headline:

"China Says It's No North Korea"

20 posted on 08/30/2002 10:30:57 AM PDT by Poohbah
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