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Are Dr. Judith Reisman's claims about homosexuals and pedophilia phony?
Springfield(MO) News-Leader ^ | 08/25/02 - 08/30/02 | Haven Howard - Lisa Tinker

Posted on 08/30/2002 3:58:34 AM PDT by JCG

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:30:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The recent decision of Big Brothers-Big Sisters of America making it mandatory for local chapters to accept homosexual volunteers makes no sense to any thinking adult or concerned parent. I am also very disturbed the Springfield News-Leader is endorsing this decision.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrothers; bigsisters; cameron; gays; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; pedophiles; reisman; sasu
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21 posted on 08/30/2002 7:47:23 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform
Lots of good stuff here. Thanks for the ping, bump.
23 posted on 08/30/2002 8:10:16 AM PDT by scripter
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To: JCG
BBBS won’t allow a male to mentor a female child, but our boys are at a greater risk if their mentor is homosexual.

This is the central point. The experience of the Catholic Church, in which a minority of priests (homosexuals), has caused 95% of the sexual molestations (against teenage boys) vividly illustrates the truth of Dr. Reisman's observations. Clearly, homosexual men a far, far more likely to molest teenage boys than heterosexual men are likely to molest teenage girls. If homosexual priests were not allowed close contact with teenage boys, the Catholic Church would not now be mired in deep shame, scandal, and the wreckage of lives its policies have produced.

24 posted on 08/30/2002 8:19:10 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: JCG
Howard refers to her as a “leading expert,” when in fact much of her “research” is merely recycled conjecture obtained from Paul Cameron. Cameron was dropped from membership in the American Psychological Association in 1984 for ethical violations concerning his biased and fraudulent research.

This is a homosexual lie. Dr. Reisman's research, or the part I have seen, relies on numerous studies conducted over the years. Dr. Reisman has said on many occassions that the only reason she has undertaken this sort of research is to product kids - like the thousands of teenage boys molested by homosexual priests in the Catholic Church (and in the Boy Scouts - prior to the enactment of homosexual molestation prevention policies).

25 posted on 08/30/2002 8:22:32 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: JCG
Apart from the dangers of molestation, which are very real, most regular people understand that homosexuality is at least partly (I believe heavily) brought about by environmental factors (relationships with the father, older brothers, relationships with kids of the same sex, molestation, etc.) Any loving parent would want their impressionable child to be mentored by someone who exhibits and encourages normal heterosexual feelings. Who would send their son out (particularly a fatherless son) with a homosexual guy who talks about his attractions to 'sexy' men - or who talks about his experiences with homosexual lovers? The last thing (the vast, vast, vast majority of) parents want is for their kids to grow up homosexual - with all the pain, sordidness and health risks that entails. Like the Catholic Church, BBBS has put the welfare of kids far lower than the PC support it feels it has to show for the radical gay agenda. Boy Scouts, in contrast, puts the welfare of kids first, where it should always be. Shame on BBBS. Homosexuals just can't stop pushing to be with YOUR kids. Watch out!
26 posted on 08/30/2002 8:29:44 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Tom Bombadil
Judith Reisman's footnotes should provide the material you are looking for.

You're right. Her research is exhaustively documented and footnoted.

27 posted on 08/30/2002 8:31:26 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Bryan
Thank you for your stats and documentation. What's so disturbing is that homosexuals don't just want to practice their bizarre sexual practices in their bedrooms - they want to get close to our children. People aren't going to take it anymore.
28 posted on 08/30/2002 8:36:06 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: uncbob
The point being missed on this entire debate is you don't put people who are sexually attracted to either their own sex or the opposite sex in postions where they have close contact or close personal supervision. That includes male heterosexuals with young girls or homosexuals with young boys. This common sense aspect is harly ever addressed.

Of course. Which is why 85% of Boy Scout parents don't want their sons out on overnight camping trips with homosexual men.

30 posted on 08/30/2002 8:37:32 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: lentulusgracchus
But but but but......the link posted by madg leads to an anti-Christian hate site which has an article in which an obviously unbiased (uh huh) person named Poppy Dixon with (I am sure) unassailable credentials says bad things about her.

That proves all your links are filled with invalid info and everything Kinsey said is absolute truth. It also proves his "research" methods and findings are beyond reproach. Therefore, Big Brothers and Big Sisters are correct in their assertions and the priests who molested boys are not gay.

Wow, thanks to Poppy Dixon for clearing all that up.

31 posted on 08/30/2002 8:43:29 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: Bryan
Thanks for the links. Excellent.
32 posted on 08/30/2002 9:01:47 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: Bryan
thanks
33 posted on 08/30/2002 9:11:42 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Bryan
Gosh. Too much to absorb. But seems to be lots of interesting and useful info here on this topic.

The ‘‘gay life’’ is short, lonely and filled with cheating, insecurity, disease and danger.

So they're not "gay" after all.

34 posted on 08/30/2002 9:39:21 AM PDT by john in missouri
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To: JCG
Can anyone verify or refute the claims made about Dr. Reisman and Paul Cameron in the second ("Volunteerism") letter?

Dr. Cameron has been the Gay-stapo's whipping boy for everything involving research indicating that homosexuality is not consistent. I have listened to interviews with Judith Reisman and read many of the press releases on her site, and I cannot remember her citing any of Cameron's work for her conclusions. If they have to resort to the smear-by-association strategy, chances are she's clean as a whistle.

Dr. Reisman is a heroine of mine, because she had the courage to say loudly what others had known but were reluctant to say: Alfred Kinsey, the progenitor of the so-called "New Morality" that spawned a culture that constantly turns up the hedonism level (slowed only briefly by the first decade of AIDS) is the proverbial naked emperor, and a child-rapist on top of all that.

35 posted on 08/30/2002 9:39:26 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: yendu bwam
I think your bishop should have a copy of this thread or at least Bryan's post.If he can read it and not do something that brings this to the attention of all catholics in his diocese then you can with assurance know positively that he is evil or stupid beyond belief.
36 posted on 08/30/2002 10:11:57 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Skooz
I know this will shock! everybody here, but I see no reason why the Sheppard and Dirkhising cases should be compared (more than any two, randomly chosen murder cases should be compared).

The contention in the Sheppard case was that he was killed because he was homosexual. That is why the media made a fuss: It was supposedly an example of the virulence of homophobia in our society, etc., etc. Therefore, it makes some sense to compare the Sheppard case to the murder of James Byrd, where the motivation for the killing was apparently the victim's minority status (in Byrd's case, as a black man).

As far as I know, no one has ever claimed that Dirkhising was killed because he was straight. (I don't know that it's ever even been established that he was straight.) Therefore, the Dirkhising case does not serve as a counter-example of the virulence of gays' hatred of heterosexuals, and so is not a useful comparison to the Sheppard case.

In fact, I can't think of any useful comparison to the Sheppard case, i.e., an instance when a couple of gay men beat a straight man to death because he was straight.

Nevertheless, it might make sense to compare the Dirkhising case to the many recent cases in the news where presumably straight men violated, then killed, little girls. In all those situations, the victim was killed in connection with a (twisted) sexual act.

But, of course, if we were to compare the Dirkhising case to the recent rapes/murders of little girls, it wouldn't be as satisfying would it? After all, the ratio of gay rapist/murderers to straight rapist/murderers wouldn't be one-to-one. So that wouldn't serve the "agenda" of the Reismanites.

37 posted on 08/30/2002 10:13:36 AM PDT by Fethiye
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To: Skooz
Yeah, I caught that, too. I assume it is her contention that more girls than boys have been molested by priests. Like to see her source, but of course we won't.

If they were, they were dressed as altar boys.

38 posted on 08/30/2002 10:15:25 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: Fethiye
Straight murders gay = news. Victim is helpless martyr to the cause of diversity.
Gay murders straight = not news. Victim may have been gay and had it coming.

Gotcha.

I can't think of any useful comparison to the Sheppard case, i.e., an instance when a couple of gay men beat a straight man to death because he was straight.

The motivation of the killers is more important than their actions? Huh?

Who has the agenda?

39 posted on 08/30/2002 10:26:22 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: one_particular_harbour
Who is yanking Reisman's strings?You who so eloquently bemoan the the evil abusive priests and have,or are suing them in court,surely want to get to the bottom of the problem,I would think.

Consequently,if a person has done research that points to a certain element of society as being at fault,is on the payroll of someone you do not like,you need to share that information with us.After all it would indeed be tragic if we were all led down a path that led us to false conclusions.This would in truth,delay fixing the problem and more little boys might be abused and as I said earlier,we all know how incensed you are about that.

So speak up or I will believe that your only objective is to destroy the Catholic Church and make a little money from your lawsuit and provide work for your compadres in the legal profession.

Furthermore,you are incorrect in your assertion about her credentials and methodology and I would bet you know that too. With respect to the P.O. Box,do you understand the danger that people who are not p.c. are in? Professionally and phyically they can be silenced.She is very brave as are so many others who have done studies that have come to the same conclusions.

40 posted on 08/30/2002 10:34:27 AM PDT by saradippity
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