Posted on 08/29/2002 1:41:13 PM PDT by DrLiberty
September 11 - US Government accused
A Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented THE NEWS with version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press. The report, compiled by an independent inquiry into the September 11th, World Trade Centre attack, warns the American public that the government’s official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny.
A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.
In a detailed press communiqué the inquiry stated: “The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.”
The report seriously questions whether or not the suspect hijackers, supposedly trained on Cessna light aircraft, could have located a target dead-on 200 miles from take off point. It further throws into doubt their ability to master the intricacies of the instrument flight rules (IFR) in the 45 minutes from take off to the point of impact. Colonel de Grand said that it would be impossible for novices to have taken control of the four aircraft and orchestrated such a terrible act requiring military precision of the highest order.
A member of the inquiry team, a US Air Force officer who flew over 100 sorties during the Vietnam war, told the press conference: “Those birds (commercial airliners) either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat, or they were being manoeuvred by remote control.”
In evidence given to the enquiry, Captain Kent Hill (retd.) of the US Air Force, and friend of Chic Burlingame, the pilot of the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, stated that the US had on several occasions flown an unmanned aircraft, similar in size to a Boeing 737, across the Pacific from Edwards Air Force base in California to South Australia. According to Hill it had flown on a pre programmed flight path under the control of a pilot in an outside station.
Hill also quoted Bob Ayling, former British Airways boss, in an interview given to the London Economist on September 20th, 2001. Ayling admitted that it was now possible to control an aircraft in flight from either the ground or in the air. This was confirmed by expert witnesses at the inquiry who testified that airliners could be controlled by electro-magnetic pulse or radio frequency instrumentation from command and control platforms based either in the air or at ground level.
All members of the inquiry team agreed that even if guns were held to their heads none of them would fly a plane into a building. Their reaction would be to ditch the plane into a river or a field, thereby safeguarding the lives of those on the ground.
A further question raised by the inquiry was why none of the pilots concerned had alerted ground control. It stated that all pilots are trained to punch a four-digit code into the flight control’s transponder to warn ground control crews of a hijacking - but this did not happen.
During the press conference Captain Hill maintained that the four airliners must have been choreographed by an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS). This system can engage several aircraft simultaneously by knocking out their on-board flight controls. He said that all the evidence points to the fact that the pilots and their crews had not taken any evasive action to resist the supposed hijackers. They had not attempted any sudden changes in flight path or nose-dive procedures - which led him to believe that they had no control over their aircraft.
THE NEWS, in an attempt to further substantiate the potential veracity of these findings, spoke to an Algarve-based airline pilot, who has more than 20 years of experience in flying passenger planes, to seek his views. Captain Colin McHattie, currently flying with Cathay Pacific, agreed with the independent commission’s findings. However, he explained that while it is possible to fly a plane from the ground, the installation of the necessary equipment is a time-consuming process, and needs extensive planning. THE NEWS will publish a full interview with Captain McHattie in next week’s edition.
The FBI also came in for criticism for the various pieces of contradictory evidence it has published regarding the suspects. Questions are now being asked as to how incorrect information was given out regarding the ID cards of the suspects, and the seat numbers they supposedly occupied after boarding the flights.
None of the suspects named by the FBI appeared on any of the official passenger lists. A further point was how the FBI had managed to retrieve the passport of one of the suspects amid the molten and twisted remains of thousands of tons of steel and rubble brought about by the Twin Towers collapse.
Dr. Paul Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury, and presently Senior Research Fellow at Stamford University, has lent his support to the independent inquiry findings. He also claims that Osama Bin Laden was not responsible for September 11th. The doctor has challenged President Bush to make public the so-called “irrefutable evidence” incriminating Bin Laden.
Colonel Donn de Grand said that if President Bush is lying it would not be the first time that the American people had been mislead by its government. He cited the recently published official government archives describing President Roosevelt’s duplicity in deceiving Americans about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour, which triggered the US entry into WWll.
He also highlighted the role of the country’s government in misleading its citizens in respect of the Bay of Pigs invasion in Cuba, and the events that brought about the Spanish American war in the late 19th, century. “Whilst considering who committed this act of war on September 11th,” he said, “albeit Russia, China, an Islamic country or NATO, we must also consider that the enemy may well be within the gates.
“Not for the first time the American public might be being mislead, by those with ulterior motives, into lending its support to a war, this time against Iraq, that has no bearing whatsoever on the interests of the people of the USA.”
So far the mainstream American news media has failed to publish or broadcast any details regarding the independent inquiry. Similarly, the White House, whilst having received a copy of the report, has remained silent on its findings.
My God, that is funny! I'd LOVE to see something like that!
There's nothing wrong with questioning the actions and motives of our representatives in government. That's the American way. But, spouting wild conspiracy theories that verge on slander and that can be easily shot down is no way to do it. Who's going to listen to you come the day when you do have a valid argument after you've discredited yourself by supporting this garbage?
I suppose the Florida flight instructors who reported that the hi-jackers said they only wanted to learn how to fly a plane, but had no interest in bothering to learn how to take off or land are part of this grand conspiracy, too.
Pre-9/11, American intelligence agencies definitely had their heads up their posteriors. No doubt about that. Did they close their eyes and knowingly let 9/11 happen? I don't think so. They either had their eyes ripped out by a Clinton administration that crippled them, or were blindfolded and shackled by PC bullsh*t... or both. They're no longer crippled IMO, but still blindfolded and shackled. The PC gods still reign in America and hunger for human sacrifices, which they'll probably get when a terrorist, who was gleefully issued a visa or allowed to cross our border post-9/11, sets off a dirty nuke in a major American city or commits some other atrocity.
My reservations for certain aspects of the Patriot Act aside, if 9/11 is all some part of a grand conspiracy to pull America deeper into the UN and a New World Order, it isn't working very well. Americans are awake, disgusted with the UN and our foreign critics more than ever, we've been acting "in-your-face" unilaterally, and have told the ICC, the Kyoto weenies, and the disarmament freaks to go to h3ll. Plus, with each passing day our own Fifth Column looks more and more like the fools and traitors they are in the eyes of the average American.
We still have a lot of problems, our share of idiots, and some very bad policies to deal with. There are those who would use 9/11 as an excuse to restrict our freedoms, and we must remain vigilant now more than ever before. But, mindlessly swallowing bogus conspiracy theories is not vigilance, it's a distraction from the true battles we should be prepared to fight.
I said the plane that hit the first tower flew down the Hudson River. Which it did, moron.
I know you think the evil Jews in AWACs were controlling the planes, but the fact of the matter is that the evil Jews (or David Rockefeller, the Bush family, and the Queen of England - whatever) wouldn't have needed to do that.
If you had two brain cells to rub together, it would be completely obvious to you that your evil little Jew conspiracy plan is so balls-ass ludicrous, you would be embarrassed to even suggest it.
But lacking those necessities, you think you've stumbled onto some nugget of brilliant information that will prove, once and for all, that you were right to hate the Jews all along, and everybody should give you credit.
How long before you shoot up a van load of yarmulke-wearing devils?
"Good Lord! It's you!"
Nope ... that was a handheld transceiver - it picks up aircraft frequencies, and has a push-to-talk button for transmitting as well.
No kidding - I hadn't heard that. Although I know quite a few pilots who have left their handhelds plugged in to charge, and then forget the darn thing when they check out of the hotel.
I hate fake heroes (ref.: Show Low Fire, Colorado Fire)
Exactly - I see I wasn't the only one for whom this bit stuck out. The latest model 737, according to this page from Boeing, has a maximum range of 3383 statute miles. This handy air distance calculator (LAX to MEL, if you feel the need to try it yourself) tells me that the distance from Los Angeles to Melbourne is 7923 statute miles.
Not that mere facts are usually enough to trip up proponents of theories like this, of course...
Did I say that? No, but your fellow pilers on here have. Read more carefully.
DEAD: "I said the plane that hit the first tower flew down the Hudson River. Which it did, moron."
No, you said they used it as a navigation device, there's a difference. Can you back that claim up, or is it just more supposition on your part? I guess any supposition is ok if it doesn't threaten the status quo, eh Dead?
DEAD: "I know you think the evil Jews in AWACs were controlling the planes, but the fact of the matter is that the evil Jews (or David Rockefeller, the Bush family, and the Queen of England - whatever) wouldn't have needed to do that...."
"How long before you shoot up a van load of yarmulke-wearing devils?"
Those are very hateful statements that make me not want to even finish this post, because its disgusting to even think about conversing with you. I've never suggested any Jewish conspiracy, mentioned Jews or Isreal ONCE in this thread, and you have the AUDACITY to spew this bile all over this thread, which is what is truly offensive here. I guess its not enough to just argue my points, you have to invent wild and racist copy that you imagine I think or feel. Its also very dangerous, because people will automatically think I in some way agree with those statements and that can get you in a lot of trouble these days. Clean up your mind and your mouth, Dead. You're obviously sick and twisted. And you're frothing at the mouth because I'm suggesting things you aren't comfortable with and that threatens you. That is a sign of weakness and lack of clarity.
OK, hold on a minute here! If you knew anything about aviation - and I doubt you do - pilots (even the hijackin' kind) use GPS and other navigational instruments to get the plane pointed in the right direction, and visual reference to find the destination with precision ... and to avoid hitting stuff on the way there.
So, just cut out the name-calling. Once more, and I'm hitting the Abuse button on you. Given the ludicrousness of the theory, you don't have a lot of wiggle room by launching personal attacks. Unless that's what you're after. Yawn.
They were. They were on the passenger manifests. One flight attendant identified them while talking to her airline base. They used credit cards.
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