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Confession Had His Signature; DNA Did Not
Nytimes.com ^ | August 26, 2002 | JODI WILGOREN

Posted on 08/28/2002 8:25:05 PM PDT by 2sheep

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To: Crazymonarch; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; babylonian; ex-Texan; shaggy eel; ...
Crazymonarch and Prodigal Daughter,

Great posts, both of you.

C, you have a style all your own and the Truth comes through loud and clear!  Praise G~d for your vision.

P.D., excellent stuff.  You have done great research and have made correct and powerful conclusions.  Patrick Swiney's letter Too Late for Debate is a must read.

Here are more links on the falsely accused:

 WINDS - George Hansen, "Diesel Therapy" and Susan McDougal

 Congressman Hansen's Injuries Inflicted by Federal Marshals.

 Marshals Shackle Congressman Hansen -- "Diesel Therapy" -- Hansen found Innocent!

41 posted on 08/30/2002 5:37:10 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Age of Reason
"such behavior may be inspired by a justice system that has not been dispensing justice."

And that justifies coercing a confession of guilt from the innocent??? Are we to believe that it is acceptable to jail someone for crimes he MAY have committed now, even though it is certain he didn't commit the crime for which he is imprisoned?

42 posted on 08/30/2002 6:54:52 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: 2sheep; Crazymonarch; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; babylonian; Fred Mertz; American in Israel; ...
I garbled the links for the San Diego newspaper coverage of the Stephanie Crowe case by leaving out the Arrest link. The correction is below:

Stephanie Crowe murder case Main Page

The night she was killed.

The arrest

The knife

More arrests

In court

The bombshell

Reader responses

43 posted on 08/30/2002 7:01:52 AM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: MizSterious; Jaded; spectre; Krodg
Thought you guys might be interested in this.....

Please ping anyone else you can think of. : )
44 posted on 08/30/2002 7:02:20 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Age of Reason
I just hope that--as often the case with scientific theories--twenty years from now, we don't hear that DNA testing was inaccurate

That scary thought has occurred to me, too.

45 posted on 08/30/2002 7:29:44 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: 2sheep
Most distressing read.
46 posted on 08/30/2002 8:32:26 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Age of Reason; Politicalmom
"I just hope that--as often the case with scientific theories--twenty years from now, we don't hear that DNA testing was inaccurate and as a result many guilty criminals were mistakenly set free."

I think it's far more likely that we'll learn some hard lessons about politically amibitious DAs who push police to get convictions at any cost. It has already been shown that Oklahoma City's police chemist, Joyce Gilchrist, quite literally fabricated evidence when none existed. She testified to substances on clothing that later testing proved were not there, just for instance. No, let's not blame the science in these DNA cases. Lets look at who's doing the testing, who's pushing for convictions, and why. It's not enough to convict "someone." It must be the right someone.

47 posted on 08/30/2002 8:38:21 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: BradyLS
America is the most giving country on the face of the earth and gives away countless millions upon billions in both taxes and charitable contributions to faces they never see and problems they never hear about.

But is it, really? Is it not like the parent who wants their kid out of his hair, so he gives the kid $20 and tells him to go do something with it? Is that parent being 'charitable', or merely lazy?

Now look at the allegations of fraud and mismanagement in many of these large charitible NGOs like the Red Cross and the United Way.

But hey, those guys blindly throwing money to these big charities can say proudly that they Gave, and are Good People, and are Charitible. And the parent can say he's a Good Parent because he spends money on his child.

Tuor

48 posted on 08/30/2002 8:49:00 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: Age of Reason
I strongly suspect that if the cops framed or railroaded any of those people into jail, the cops did so because it was the only way to get those turned-loose murderers and pedophiles you speak of off the streets for a while, because the courts keep setting them free.

The ends justifies the means, even if it perverts the law and makes a mockery out of the judicial system that helps maintain our society. Wonderful, in stead of fixing what is broken, they go out and make it worse.

Tuor

49 posted on 08/30/2002 8:51:36 AM PDT by Tuor
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To: 2sheep
Truer words have not recently been spoken.

Look at some of the propaganda machines. Lenin would be so very proud.
50 posted on 08/30/2002 9:41:24 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: 2sheep
Diligence.
51 posted on 08/30/2002 10:21:10 AM PDT by babylonian
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