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Augusta kids killed (Another Homeschool Killing)
Helena Independent Record ^ | 8/27/2002 | CAROLYNN BRIGHT

Posted on 08/27/2002 5:47:49 AM PDT by CholeraJoe

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To: Intimidator
When I see some of the posts on FR regarding what one would or would NEVER do as a parent I am reminded of a little poem I was told long ago when I first became a Mom..........

With the patter of little feet, come a thousand words I'll have to eat!

Some folks ought to keep that in mind.

161 posted on 08/27/2002 7:26:59 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: glory
They were in public school at the time they were shot so what the hell are you talking about? Apparently she got her break from homeschooling.

Look at it this way, maybe homeschooling was the only thing keeping these kids alive.

162 posted on 08/27/2002 7:27:00 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: Sangamon Kid
I homeschool four children. It is a point of contention between my spouse & me at times -- it is exhausting and there is just about no instant gratification involved. But I would think that the solution would be suicide, not murder -- even on my very worst days, it would never occur to me to kill the kids! This woman is sending her husband a big fat message of some kind, and the school thing has nothing to do with it.
163 posted on 08/27/2002 7:27:42 AM PDT by Temple Drake
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To: glory
while only one raised feminaziism on this thread, i have encountered other homeschoolers who have insinuated the same. i can truly blow myself wide open here and admit that i am a lawyer and that will clinch the deal for sure. In any event, i agree 100% that the NEA is nightmare organization and that NOW and feminazis would much prefer kids NOT be homeschooled and do their level best to trash homeschoolers. i know exactly where you are coming from, and all i ask is that people not automatically pigeonhole people who DON"T homeschool as inadequate parents.

as to questioning whether i am cut out to homeschool, as i think i have explained, i work with my 7 year old, who has a learning disability, and i see firsthand what my lack of patience wreaks on her poor little psyche. i much prefer to read to her and play dolls and teach her to cook, than to do MATH with her, where one or both of us ends up bawling!

164 posted on 08/27/2002 7:28:00 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
Hey, are Catholic grade schools as good today as they were when I attended in the '60's? As an adult I continue to be so thankful that my parents worked their fingers to the bone to send us 7 kids to parochial school, and though I'm no longer a Catholic, that schooling was one of the best things that ever happened to me. (By the way...my wife and I have homeschooled our kids for 16 years now.)
165 posted on 08/27/2002 7:28:01 AM PDT by Sangamon Kid
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To: xsmommy
However, he said that Swanson and her husband had argued last week about Swanson’s decision to enroll the two children in school in Augusta — Gene Swanson wanted his wife to continue to home school the kids on the ranch while she wanted them to attend public school.

Please read the article again. She wanted her children in the government indoctrination centers.

166 posted on 08/27/2002 7:28:06 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: xsmommy
no, you misunderstand, i am a feminazi that WORKS while having someone ELSE school my kids

Well, there's nothing wrong with working. But, in case you haven't noticed, stay-at-home moms get criticized more heavily than working moms. You're supposed to be "super moms", according to Sesame Street and everyone in the media. I myself worked up to a year-and-a-half ago, but I worked nights and weekends. Even if we wanted to put our children in daycare, we couldn't have afforded it. Now, with three kids, we can't afford to continue raising them on just three hours' sleep a night, so I'm at home full-time now. Yet, if you believe the media, I am either "lazy", "wealthy", or simply "oppressed". I can't count the number of times people have commented why I am not working DURING THE DAY with my children in daycare "because they need that socialization..." It was like: OK, then YOU pay for it for me.

167 posted on 08/27/2002 7:28:11 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Corin Stormhands
Corin, it's so refreshing to see your humor at play.

Careful....they might shoot you. I just told "intimidator" to take a hike. (what an idiot.)

X
168 posted on 08/27/2002 7:29:10 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Diva
Perhaps he was the one who chose to sleep outside? Two bad parents here and the kids suffer... 2 dead and 2 others scarred for life.
169 posted on 08/27/2002 7:29:31 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: CholeraJoe
So what Joe--the point is she got what she wanted--they returned to public school so your attempt to pin this on some idea she was forced to homeschool is just bogus. It does not matter if they were homeschooled for 15 years, she got what she wanted in the end and that was to no longer homeschool them. You'd have a lot more credibility with your argument if she was still homeschooling them, but she isn't. As someone else asked, why exactly are you against homeschooling? It seems obvious you dug this story up only for it's mention of homeschooling.
170 posted on 08/27/2002 7:29:52 AM PDT by glory
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To: Temple Drake
I homeschool four children.

So did we. We are down to the last two.

171 posted on 08/27/2002 7:31:12 AM PDT by Sangamon Kid
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To: xsmommy
LOl--I live in Ohio too and those are the schools we are not going to use--one of the best districts as well. Oh well..guess we all disagree as to what pc is.
172 posted on 08/27/2002 7:32:12 AM PDT by glory
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To: Sangamon Kid
you know, kid, i think that varies by region. we have relatives in upstate NY and OH where catholic schools are being closed and dying off, whereas the Arlington diocese expands and is building new schools etc. THIS, in view of the fact that Arlington and Fairfax Counties are some of the highest rated PUBLIC school districts in the nation, educationally speaking.

in addition, our schools have TONS of non-catholics that attend. so yes, i would say that depending on the area, catholic schools are better. Also, we have public school teachers that take pay cuts coming from Fairfax Co. to teach in our schools because there is discipline and right and wrong are taught.

173 posted on 08/27/2002 7:32:48 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: CWRWinger
read the thread.
174 posted on 08/27/2002 7:33:27 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: ward_of_the_state
LOL--I thought of that for a moment, just a moment. No doubt it will be defended in that manner.
175 posted on 08/27/2002 7:33:44 AM PDT by glory
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To: xsmommy
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am so thankful my Mother never homeschooled us. Our sanity was preserved by attending school and as many extracurricular activities as possible. Staying out of my home was safety! And my Dad was the perfect enabler. Sorry folks there are some very wacko parents out there... and the one thing they shouldn't do is keep the kids at home.
176 posted on 08/27/2002 7:34:02 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: CholeraJoe
Gene Swanson wanted his wife to continue to home school the kids.....

That's the father's job.
The wife is supposed to help, but it's ultimately the father's responsibility.
Sounds like this guy was lax regarding his.

177 posted on 08/27/2002 7:35:38 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Tired of Taxes
well it depends on who you talk to as to who is more criticized, i have been asked on FR by posters, WHY DID YOU HAVE THEM IF SOMEONE ELSE IS RAISING THEM. i have been lucky, i took 2 year maternity leaves with each of the 3 kids, and now work a flexible schedule so as to avoid daycare altogether, xshub takes them to school and i work early so as to be able to leave and get them directly from school. i realize not everyone can do that, and i laud stay at home moms for what they do, i just don't want to be called a feminazi because i happen to have a job. : )
178 posted on 08/27/2002 7:36:13 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
I don't have time.
179 posted on 08/27/2002 7:36:16 AM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: Tired of Taxes
I can't count the number of times people have commented why I am not working DURING THE DAY with my children in daycare "because they need that socialization..." It was like: OK, then YOU pay for it for me.

Oh, don't worry, the Village will provide daycare... Just let us raise your taxes some more... (barf)

180 posted on 08/27/2002 7:36:24 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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