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Gun Control From Australia
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| Ed Chenel
Posted on 08/26/2002 7:32:39 AM PDT by ABC123
Gun Control From: Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia.
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
Australia- wide, assaults are up 8.6%;
Australia- wide, armed robberies are up 44% (yes, 44%!)
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300%.
(Note that while the law- abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break- ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian society of guns."
You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear your governor or member of the state assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens saves lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!
FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST!
DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY AND LET THE VOCAL MINORITY LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE U.S.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: australia; banglist; guncontrol; stats
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To: B4Ranch
"Our thinking coincides quite well. Stay armed and self protected."
Thanks, I will until the day I die. You do the same.
To: Timesink
The extremely accurate and truly non-partisan Urban Legends Reference Pages ROTFLMAO.
Snopes is almost as much of a joke as the urban legends they try to debunk. I have seen too many ULs they have called false only to read the associated reasoning to find the facts either support no conclusion or the opposite conclusion.
To: Shooter 2.5
Really only 5%?
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posted on
08/27/2002 7:19:27 AM PDT
by
jjm2111
To: bandleader
"In the words of Charleton Heston"They Can Have My Gun When They Pry It From My Cold,Dead Fingers"!"
Right. They'll get mine with a hot barrel and a lot of empty magazines.
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posted on
08/27/2002 7:39:37 AM PDT
by
PLMerite
To: jjm2111
It may not even be that high. A number of gun activists belong to more than one group. I'm a member of the NRA and the Texas State Rifle Association.
To: Shooter 2.5
I'm a member of GOA and NRA.
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posted on
08/27/2002 9:38:40 AM PDT
by
jjm2111
To: jjm2111
That's a good combination. I just wish that the GOA would learn to present their accomplishments and quit criticizing the NRA. We have to work together and realize that no gun group is the enemy. The enemy is the anti-gun politicians.
To: Shooter 2.5
I agree. Howver, I get a little disillusioned w/ the NRA at times. While they do an EXCELLENT, and I do mean EXCELLENT job at gun safety and education, their sell-out nature in the political arena gets frustrating. They called me up once asking me to donate money to support the lawsuit against the campagin-finance law. I told the very nice, but quite condescending lady on the phone, that if the NRA would actually sue on 2nd Amendment grounds, I'd think about donating extra money. I told her that the intentions of the founding fathers, as demonstrated in the federalist and anti-federalist arguments; and in their private papers, show that the 2nd amendment supports individual ownership and bearing of arms. Even liberals like Larry Tribe from harvard have admitted this. Get a Second Amendment case before the Supreme Court. Needless to say, she had no answer.
If the 2nd Amendement was as unassailable as the 1st Amendment, Wayne LaPierre would have a much lower expense account.
I used to be a member of Keep-and-Bear-Arms.com. It's generally a good organization w/ good people, but they seem a touch tin-foil-hattish at times.
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posted on
08/27/2002 10:48:40 AM PDT
by
jjm2111
To: jjm2111
When the residents of Morton Grove Illinois tried to bring their case before the Supreme Court, the court refused to hear the case. Reality is that either the court refuses to hear the case or we would lose. The NRA isn't the only group out there. If it was so easy to bring a case before the court, why hasn't another group done so?
KeepandBearArms.com is way out there. They're another group that has a special column where all they do is whine about the NRA. Right now, they're upset that Ashcroft didn't pay attention to their petition. They had 20,000 signatures. I have news for them. If they paid a little attention to the other groups they would know that petitions are sent out all the time. I must have signed dozens of them from the NRA or other groups.
To: elcaudillo
Anyone who even suggests that the current Australian Government is in any way left simply knows nothing of Australia.Australia is probably even right of the Bush government and our government has the overhwelming support of the populus unlike America where perhaps almost half of the people are at the very least,soft left.Our gun laws are the only major flaw in an otherwise extremely conservative government.The whole problem can be traced back to one massacre that cause mass public hysteria.However,we CAN still own guns and any person who participated in the gun buy back scheme is a fool.Anyway,i never gave up my beretta and i will hold onto it,whether legal or not.Keep your insults for your enemies,not one of the two allies you have left.....and the whole beer guzzling stereotype is a bit old,and i've been to texas so dont start me on that one.If you have a problem with that,then i wish we could meet face to face 'mate'.
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posted on
08/27/2002 3:33:58 PM PDT
by
smpc
To: smpc
If you have a problem with that,then i wish we could meet face to face 'mate'. Hehe..... Well said mate.
As for the stupid "gun control" we have here, I'd really like to know how many registered gun owners actually shoot/threaten other people. Criminals don't register their guns and they do the crimes so whats the point of having "gun control" for law abiding citizens? Stupidity!!!
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posted on
08/27/2002 9:07:52 PM PDT
by
enrg
To: *bang_list
bang
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posted on
08/27/2002 9:11:17 PM PDT
by
Mulder
To: smpc
To: ABC123
The left denies these statistics.
To: TomB
I'm from Western PA and wouldn't even piss in the bottle (I have standards for my urine). Savin' it up for the sinkmeister's grave, right?
To: spokeshave
Why do Australians oil their lawns....? To prevent their guns from rusting
That should be *Why do Ozzies oil their gardens*, mate!
Ever wonder why they're called *diggers?
-archy-/-
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posted on
08/28/2002 10:35:03 AM PDT
by
archy
To: smpc
Anyway,i never gave up my beretta and i will hold onto it,whether legal or not. I am happily comfortable in knowing that should I return to Oz, a good pal there is helpfully storing my Lithgow SMLE, an M1 carbine and a L1A1 SLR for me...and that there'll be a F89 SAW made available for my use should I need one.
But I'd really feel better with a Bren as well.
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posted on
08/28/2002 10:47:09 AM PDT
by
archy
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