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Gun Control From Australia
Email | Unknown | Ed Chenel

Posted on 08/26/2002 7:32:39 AM PDT by ABC123

Gun Control From: Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia.

Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:

Australia- wide, assaults are up 8.6%;
Australia- wide, armed robberies are up 44% (yes, 44%!)
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300%.
(Note that while the law- abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)

While figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break- ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian society of guns."

You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear your governor or member of the state assembly disseminating this information.

The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens saves lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note Americans, before it's too late!

FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST!

DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY AND LET THE VOCAL MINORITY LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE U.S.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: australia; banglist; guncontrol; stats
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1 posted on 08/26/2002 7:32:39 AM PDT by ABC123
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To: ABC123
Why do Australians oil their lawns....?

To prevent their guns from rusting

2 posted on 08/26/2002 7:43:01 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: ABC123
Do-gooders and the law of unintended consequences.
3 posted on 08/26/2002 7:49:03 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: spokeshave; dd5339
LOL!
4 posted on 08/26/2002 7:52:44 AM PDT by Vic3O3
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To: spokeshave; dd5339
LOL!
5 posted on 08/26/2002 7:53:45 AM PDT by Vic3O3
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To: ABC123
In the words of Charleton Heston"They Can Have My Gun When They Pry It From My Cold,Dead Fingers"!
6 posted on 08/26/2002 7:58:48 AM PDT by bandleader
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Don't bust a gut laughing too hard! It could happen here, if we fail to take the threat seriously. At the moment complacency is our biggest enemy!!
7 posted on 08/26/2002 8:11:12 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: spokeshave
ROFLOL
8 posted on 08/26/2002 8:13:52 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: ABC123
Those on this site who have expressed a migratory interest in Australia should look at this article as a kind of wakeup call.

Australian government has slid so far to the left that they are probably one of the most socialist governments on the planet.

Of course they can find solace in their beer. Some are indeed crying in theirs.

9 posted on 08/26/2002 8:29:58 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: ABC123
What is being done to reverse these laws and give Australia a second ammendment. Surely there must be outrage to this. Is the entire country brainwashed, or is the government controlled by a mob?
10 posted on 08/26/2002 10:14:54 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Destructor
It could happen here, if we fail to take the threat seriously. At the moment complacency is our biggest enemy!!

How true. MOLON LABE!

11 posted on 08/26/2002 10:22:10 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: ABC123
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/australiaguns.html

Check the difference for yourself.

12 posted on 08/26/2002 11:42:29 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Destructor
Check the site on #12 and see if this guy is just pushing the numbers. I'm a pro 2nd Amendment as anyone you'll ever find but I wonder which story is the truth.
13 posted on 08/26/2002 11:46:08 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks B4, I always thought this was a bogus e-mail.

Regardless, we need to defend our right to keep and bear arms.

14 posted on 08/26/2002 12:27:55 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: B4Ranch
Hard to say Rancher! The government officials of Australia have engaged in their share of "book cooking," so who knows? Personally, I'm inclined to believe that Gun Control is not an effective crime fighting tactic. In fact, crime usually rises, once criminals no longer have to worry about victims being able to defend themselves!

In my opinion, that just seems like common sense. I understand that you don't want our side perpetuating erroneous information, because that undermines our credibility. However, I wouldn't take the other side's bilge as gospel, either!

15 posted on 08/26/2002 1:39:50 PM PDT by Destructor
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To: Destructor
Our thinking coincides quite well. Stay armed and self protected.
16 posted on 08/26/2002 2:40:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: ABC123
"DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY AND LET THE VOCAL MINORITY LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE U.S."

That bears repeating especially since only 5% of all gun owners belong to a pro-gun group. The rest of the gun owners are Freedom Freeloaders, a term created by the NRA.
17 posted on 08/26/2002 2:44:56 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: elcaudillo
..Australian government has slid so far to the left that they are probably one of the most socialist governments on the planet...

Pigeon pucks.

We have a soft right government which is well to the right of, say, California. Cheers, By.

18 posted on 08/26/2002 2:51:18 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
"We have a soft right government which is well to the right of, say, California. Cheers, By."

Then how in the hell do you explain the politicos passing such a law?
19 posted on 08/26/2002 2:55:26 PM PDT by demkicker
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To: B4Ranch
....it has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars....

The figures sound correct but the gun buyback was in 1997. Note that the 'personal firearms' were semi-auto rifles and shotguns, plus pump action shotguns. The subsequent jump in crime figures also sound correct although they were released last year, meaning the buyback and crime stats figures have been spliced together. But they still sound accurate. Matter of fact the crime stats are actually more damning than these because gun-related crimes such as home invasion (which have increased dramatically since the gun laws) are often not reported due to the victims' fear of payback. Regards, By.

20 posted on 08/26/2002 3:00:22 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie
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