[aruanan]

I can only speak for myself but when I was a boy I didn't play "for the sake of it", I played to win.

Well, I wonder if the boys in question, were they to have been asked, would have said that they expected to win, even in the games that the experimenters characterized as non-winnable.

[glorgau]

So, for guys, the journey is the reward,

and for girls, the reward is the reward.