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Hatfill Gives Press Conference
Fox news | 08-25-02 | Steve Hatfill

Posted on 08/25/2002 11:33:25 AM PDT by at bay

Just watched the Hatfill press conference. FBI continuing on its theory that this was something that originated from the US and that Atta must have had athlete's foot or something. Hatfill, if innocent, is rightly indignant at his treatment.


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthraxscarelist; fbi; hatfill; witchhunt
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To: Pushi
Why'd they pull the AIDS thread?
121 posted on 08/25/2002 11:01:17 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: First_Salute
Seems FAS is tight with the pentagon, too.
122 posted on 08/26/2002 2:47:38 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: Catspaw
I understand that his lawyer is a civil attorney. A criminal defense attorney would've told him to keep his mouth shut.

It was made clear at Hatfill's first conference that he had hired a criminal defense attorney by that point. He did so immediately after a criminal subpoena was served on him by the FBI at the time of the search of his apartment that was done with all those media guys present.

123 posted on 08/26/2002 5:47:12 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: floriduh voter
Are you aware that Catholics and Protestants number the Ten Commandments differently?
124 posted on 08/26/2002 5:52:41 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: floriduh voter
He didn't go to the media first- he had to be prodded into doing so, when the myths and tinfoil started to get real thick with the help of the Ralph Nader-Green Party, the arab press, and, I have little doubt, the DNC. Here's an older article from when he was being quiet and discrete:

Media Manufacture Cloud of Suspicion Over Hatfill
By Nicholas Stix

Insight first published this article about the effort to blame Steven Hatfill for the anthrax attacks in the Fair Comment section of the Aug. 12 issue.

Just point and click. Those two steps, and a long e-mail "cc" list, apparently are all that it takes to spread a hoax around the world today. It works like a computer virus, and with consequences no less dangerous.

Just ask Dr. Steven J. Hatfill.

Readers of Insight and her sister daily, the Washington Times, know Hatfill through his attempts over the years to warn the public of America's lack of readiness against biowarfare attacks. However, the mainstream liberal press ignored Hatfill — until late June, that is.

Since then Hatfill has gained international notoriety with a slew of stories in Time magazine, the American Prospect, the Baltimore Sun, the Hartford Courant, the Washington Post, the Fort Lauderdale, Fla., Sun-Sentinel and on Websites as far away as Zambia. The stories played up FBI searches of Hatfill's home and a refrigerated storage locker he rents — implying that he is the anthrax terrorist who killed five people last fall with contaminated mail. On July 2, New York Times columnist Nicholas D. Kristof referred to Hatfill as "Mr. Z" and strongly suggested that the FBI should jail him as the anthrax terrorist.

"If Mr. Z were an Arab national, he would have been imprisoned long ago. … It's time for the FBI to make a move: Either it should go after him more aggressively, sifting thoroughly through his past and picking up loose threads, or it should seek to exculpate him and remove this cloud of suspicion."

Why would the FBI need to "exculpate" someone on whom it has nothing? The only cloud of "suspicion" hanging over Hatfill's head is the one manufactured by the media, who have let Dr. Barbara Hatch Rosenberg lead them around by the nose.

Rosenberg blames the U.S. government for last fall's anthrax attacks. She long has called on the United States to sign on to biowarfare protocols that would permit international inspectors to visit our biodefense installations.

In a sympathetic portrait in the March 18 New Yorker, Nicholas Lemann wrote that "Rosenberg believes that the American bioweapons program, which won't allow itself to be monitored, may not be in strict compliance with the [1972 Biological Weapons] convention. If the perpetrator of the anthrax attacks is who she thinks it is, that would put the American program in a bad light, and it would prove that she was right to demand that the program be monitored."

Rosenberg has provided no evidence to support her charges. Meanwhile, as Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs John Bolton has argued, her prescription would allow rogue nations such as Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria to learn through protocol inspections about U.S. defensive programs and develop their own offensive programs.

Journalists usually refer to Rosenberg as a "microbiologist" and "State University of New York professor." Officially, she is a professor of environmental science at a performing-arts college, but she neither has conducted scientific research nor taught in years. And she has little biowarfare expertise. Working with the far-left Federation of American Scientists, Rosenberg is a taxpayer-supported, full-time activist.

Immediately after last fall's anthrax attacks, Rosenberg began claiming that the terrorist was an American scientist from within the biodefense establishment. However, her stories diverged wildly depending on her audience. In the European version, the terrorist was a CIA agent/contract scientist who acted on agency orders as part of a deadly germ-warfare experiment. Unbeknownst to European reporters, they were getting a plotline from the brilliant but little-watched TV show Millennium (1996-99).

In the American version, the terrorist was a "bioevangelist" (The Sun's Scott Shane) who sought not to harm anyone, but to warn the public of the dangers of biowarfare.

In setting up an American scientist to take the fall for the killings, Rosenberg may have seen an opportunity to discredit the U.S. biowarfare-defense program, get the Bush administration to sign on to international biowarfare protocols that would give our enemies access to our biodefense secrets and exact political revenge on Hatfill.

In seeking to convince readers of Hatfill's guilt in last fall's attacks, Kristof and the other journalists claimed that in the late 1970s, Rhodesian special forces attacked black-owned farms with anthrax, and sought to link Hatfill to these "attacks."

No one ever has provided any evidence showing that the Rhodesian army carried out anthrax attacks, much less that Hatfill participated in them. Kristof and company merely are regurgitating a tainted 1992 article by longtime Rosenberg associate Meryl Nass. The Nass report purported to explain the 1978-80 anthrax outbreak that affected 10,000 black farmers, predominantly with cutaneous anthrax, killing 182. In her "explanation," Nass leaped from one politically loaded speculation to another without any evidence.

The flamboyant, brilliant Hatfill earned his medical degree in Rhodesia in the late 1970s and early 1980s while serving in U.S. and Rhodesian special forces. In Rhodesia, he fought against communist guerrillas. One must recall that in Rhodesia — now named Zimbabwe, and ruled since 1980 by genocidal communist Robert Mugabe — the choice was never between apartheid and freedom, but rather between white or black apartheid.

Hatfill's attorney, Thomas C. Carter, told me, "My client doesn't want to do anything, right now. … He's really upset that his name continues to be mentioned, and he's decided that the best approach is to ignore everything and to try and stay as much removed from it as he can. He might change his mind at some point in the future and participate in something but, right now, he doesn't."

If Hatfill doesn't engage the campaign against him in a hurry, he soon may find himself sharing a cell with the likes of José Padilla.

Nicholas Stix is a free-lance writer based in New York who contributes to the New York Post and Middle American News.

125 posted on 08/26/2002 6:03:05 AM PDT by piasa
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To: floriduh voter
Wrong commandment? I think you have it wrong.

Ten Commandments according to Exodus 20:2-17 and Deuteronomy 5:6-21, which are also called the 'ethical decalogue' are:

1. You shall have no other Gods before me

2. You shall not make unto thee any graven image or likeness of any thing........

3. You shall not take the name of the Lord (YHWH) your God in vain.....

4. Remember the sabbath day.....

5. Honour your father and your mother

6. You shall not kill

7. You shall not commit adultery

8. You shall not steal

9. You shall not bear false witness against thy neighbour

10. You shall not covet your neighbour's house, you shall not covet your neighbour's wife.... manservant.... maidservant.... his ox.... his ass...anything that is your neighbour's.

126 posted on 08/26/2002 6:33:27 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Texasforever; floriduh voter; aristeides
None of us have any idea what is going on
and all we are doing are making subjective value judgments
based on individual perceptions of the FBI
and government in general.

This statement simply is not true.
Those on this forum who have been following the activities of Barbara Hatch Rosenberg
for the past six months
have a perfectly clear idea of 'what is going on'.

At the time of Hatfill's first press conference
almost all the ignoramuses who posted on this Forum
had not idea who this women was.
Probably they still don't.

127 posted on 08/26/2002 7:33:12 AM PDT by Nogbad
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To: floriduh voter
I guess to get credibility and attention, we have to have press conferences and hire attorneys and parade our family and friends in front of the cameras too. We have become so melodramatic. Maybe that's what bugs me.

Good point.
128 posted on 08/26/2002 7:35:07 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: aristeides
It was made clear at Hatfill's first conference that he had hired a criminal defense attorney by that point. He did so immediately after a criminal subpoena was served on him by the FBI at the time of the search of his apartment that was done with all those media guys present.

Yes, I heard him say that he had a criminal defense attorney at the first press conference. I wonder if the criminal defense attorney, presuming he is still in Hatfill's employ, approved of his client giving the press conferences, or if the criminal defense attorney has given that authority to Hatfill's civil attorney?

129 posted on 08/26/2002 7:37:41 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Alas Babylon!
Going after "right-wingers" is not my idea of making this nation safer

Hatfill doesn't get a free pass because he's right-wing. Not any more than Timothy McVeigh. There's evdience that whoever did this probably is a right-wing American (the date was written in Western style, etc.).

People can be right or left but they still have to respect democracy. They can't go around violating the peoples' laws. I know you agree with that, for sure. Not suggesting otherwise. But I think there's probably evidence leading the FBI to look toward Hatfill. I don't think they're picking on him just because he's right wing. His political views -- or the views of someone like him if he's not guilty, a possibility I allow for entirely -- provide a strong motive for this crime. Remember, Sen. Leahy was targetted; Sen. Gramm was not. The person who did this had some kind of axe to grind.

I want to be entirely fair: I appreciate that you're not saying that someone should get a free pass just 'cause they're right wing. But be entirely free to me: there's evidence here that the person who did this with a domestic right-winger. That's not some FBI fantasy. Even from what we know publicly, it so appears.
130 posted on 08/26/2002 7:39:31 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Catspaw
It's Hatfill's decision. All the criminal defense attorney would be obliged to do is to point out to his client the risks of going public, which I think we can be more or less certain the attorney did. Which makes it all the more clear how much guts Hatfill has.
131 posted on 08/26/2002 7:41:08 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Alas Babylon!
I see nothing wrong at all for true patriots criticizing the government or agencies thereof (including law enforcement) when they are wrong.

Who disagree with the proposition. I'm just not sure abut the "when they are wrong" part on the facts of this case. Can we agree on this?: Time will tell.
132 posted on 08/26/2002 7:42:18 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: FreeTheHostages
There's evdience that whoever did this probably is a right-wing American (the date was written in Western style, etc.).

If you believe that, you really need to go back and read more about the case. Compared to the evidence that the anthrax came from an Islamic source, the so-called "evidence" that it came from a domestic right-winger is of zero value.

To get a start, I suggest you read the series of newsmax articles to which I have been providing links on another thread. Here's a link to one of them (which will allow you to navigate to the others): FBI Overlooks Iraq's Connection to Anthrax Attacks .

133 posted on 08/26/2002 7:44:50 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Thanks for the reference. I'm the first to admit I haven't read a lot on this one, so I'll look that up.
134 posted on 08/26/2002 7:48:40 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Nogbad; Texasforever; Fred Mertz
Nope, I'm unpersuaded. There's no way we can know what the FBI knows now.

I can't imagine a more important case in which to withhold judgment: if he's guilty, he's a most heinous criminal. If he's innocent, what's happened is unfair regardless of whether it's illegal.

I don't claim to be any kind of expert. But I'm not incensed by people who say he's innocent (unlike those people on the Westerfield thread defending that child rapist, those people are just impossible). Surely on this one we can at least agree to wait?
135 posted on 08/26/2002 7:51:54 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: FreeTheHostages
No, some of us make our minds up quickly. Hatfill didn't do it. See aristeides' links in #133.

I don't give the FBI the benefit of the doubt on much these days.
136 posted on 08/26/2002 8:03:16 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I completely confess I haven't traced through the post 133 links yet. I promise I'll do that tonight. On this subject, I would be always very clear to add I haven't been following as closely as I might wish.

She who's always open to suggestions, especially when wearing the foil,

FTH
137 posted on 08/26/2002 8:09:04 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
The 10 commandments are broken down differently for Catholics and Protestants. The copy I have on my wall (right next to the Bill of Rights) puts the false witness commandment at #8. Your 1 & 2 are #1 on mine, your #10 is 9 & 10 on my copy.
138 posted on 08/26/2002 8:56:24 AM PDT by NEPA
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To: Cachelot
I've been given to understand that Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, ... is actually an old girlfriend of his who has been after him for years.

Yesterday he stated he had never met her, so your information is incorrect.

I watched the news conference, and Hatfill is either the best liar I've ever seen in my life (BeezleBubba included), or is innocent. I think he's innocent.

Hatfill is seriously pissed at Ashcroft and the FBI. I believed him when he said he was originally glad when Ashcroft was appointed AG...he sounds like a good conservative just like most of us...might even be a FReeper. He expressed serious concerns about the Patriot Act that many of us have voiced, and caused me to change my mind from thinking the Patriot Act was a necessary evil to thinking it is a serious threat.

139 posted on 08/26/2002 9:09:15 AM PDT by 6ppc
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
Thanks. It's nice to get guidance minus flaming. Incredibly, I've had it wrong since Sunday School. This proves that asking questions on Free Republic should not be criticized if one of us learns something. I thought false witness was number three. Oops.

Well, I hate lying, now he has to prove that John Ashcroft lied - that's not gonna be easy.

140 posted on 08/26/2002 9:15:32 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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