The Chickenhawk Datebase

The New Hampshire Gazette ^

[BluesDuke]

Time was (some people today would probably not believe this) when a "chickenhawk" was, usually, a man (usually in his late 20s or older) who preferred to date or marry extremely young women, particularly those who had just attained legal age or were close enough to it; Charlie Chaplin (who married his fourth and final wife, Oona, when she was eighteen - and just before he was to go on trial for his surrealistic involvement with a late-teen actress who turned on him when her suspicious and possessive behaviour prompted him to spurn her) and Errol Flynn were considered typical of the breed; so, considering his tastes tended to run to young women between 18 and 24, was Hugh Hefner. (One recalls the classic exchange when Hefner, then hosting Playboy After Dark, asked one of the show's cast, a girl named Barbara Klein who had taken the stage name Barbi Benton, for a date. When she said, "I've never been out with anyone older than 24," Hefner quipped, "That's ok - neither have I.")

[ValerieUSA]

It makes sense.. in the animal world chicken hawks are predators, too.

[PsyOp]

I didn't notice Barney Franks name anywhere. As I recall his chicken coop was full of Congressional pages.

[BluesDuke]

It makes sense.. in the animal world chicken hawks are predators, too.

[Brett66]

The fact remains that you can't ban them from holding public office or speaking their views. If you could, that would be a dictatorship.

[A.J.Armitage]

The fact that they's almost all Republicans is ... well, curious, don't you think?

Not really. The authors of the list more or less admit that actual hawkishness has nothing whatsoever to do with placement.

Patrick Buchanan: A complicated case. He remains listed because our judges believe his general attachment to hyper-conservatism tends to negate his isolationist variety of pacifism.

So he's not a hawk, but you'll call him a chickenhawk anyway just because you don't like his politics. Nice. You're dishonest, but you're honest about being dishonest.

Bill Clinton: He may have launched a few cruise missiles to distract us from a dalliance with a girl half his age, but our judges believe he wasn't bellicose enough to make the cut. Your mileage may vary.

But you like his politics, so you'll ignore the fact that he not only called for but ordered military action for what even you admit were sleazy reasons.

Since you're dishonest in handling that aspect, why trust anything on the list?

[Consort]

    Democrats and Republicans whole heartedly support our military in time of war, but as soon as the fighting stops almost every Democrat, including those that wore the uniform, turn their backs on our service men and women. They take away needed funding and spend it on wasteful and addictive social programs and use our military as a laboratory for social engineering.
    The Republicans, on the other hand, whether or not they wore the uniform, fully support our service men in war time and in peace time. They support sufficient funding for material and equipment replenishment, for modernization, for training, etc.

[Norwell]

Interesting List. First of all, they left out New Hampshirites Rubens and the Sununus (both of them).

As for Reagan, he cheated to get into the military despite being legally blind without his glasses.

It is disheartening when you consider the number if Republicans on your list. On the other hand, when you examine the number of post 1973 (draft era) veterans, they are virtually all Republicans (Buyer, Kirk--drip that he is--, Lindsey Grahm, etc.. There are probably some Democrats, though there are not many.

Personally, I find the dearth of liberals in the service one of the reasons to remain in uniform.

[M Kehoe]

George W. Bush: Yeah, right. He was in uniform.
Ronald Reagan: A complicated case.

IMHO, ANYONE who goes through basic and wears the uniform is not a chickenhawk. Even a REMF like algore.

5.56mm

[dts32041]

Truman was a cannon cocker, which during WWI meant he seved way behind the lines.

As for Lincoln 6 months of Militia duty doesn't really qualify as anybody could belong to the militia and he never got more than 70 miles from his home in New Salem, and even then his captaincy was political.

Didn't answer the question about the biggest chickenhwak of all though FDR.

[kms61]

That's just flat out wrong. Did you read the link provided? Truman was under fire numerous times.

I'll take the word of the Rangers re Lincoln.

As for FDR, he was 37 years old at the entry of the US into World War I.

[dts32041]

And he didn't volunteer, sounds like a chickehawk.

I read the article and knowing how citations are written and for what I discounted it.

With no medals mentioned or awards listed about worth the electrons it was written with.

[kms61]

troll. I'm through talking about it.

[dts32041]

But But I was giving you an honest arguemnet.

[kms61]

sorry if I misunderstood. It sounded like a troll to me.