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I can't believe this smoker circle-jerk. Do you people believe that smoking is hazardous to a smoker's health, in the very least, or not? I can't imagine you don't.

By extension, if the mechanism for transmitting the harmful elements into a smoker's body result from LIGHTING CARCINOGENS ON FIRE AND INHALING THEM, I don't want to be around you when you're doing that.

Sure, we can discuss other issues of exposure, build-up, etc., but I reject the notion that second-hand smoke is harmless. I also am amazed by the mothers crowing about their failure to stop smoking while pregnant.

Show me some hard evidence that smoking causes lung cancer.

Sure, we can discuss other issues of exposure, build-up, etc., but I reject the notion that second-hand smoke is harmless. I also am amazed by the mothers crowing about their failure to stop smoking while pregnant.

I don't know who you are, but it's none of your damn business. At least we aren't obese!

I guess you would rather we abort our baby's eh?

Do you walk down a city street in the middle of the day? Well, if you do you inhale heavy metal particles from car and truck exhaust, you also inhale a larger volume of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and a slew of long chain hydrocarbons. As a matter of fact I can smoke a pack a day out here in the hills and will receive a great deal less in the way of pollutants then you will walking a couple of blocks in the city.

BM, if you were born before, oh, say 1965, chances are pretty good that either your mother smoked or a majority of your contemporaries' mothers smoked.

I think all of us are aware of the statistics involved in smoking. We'd be pretty umbday to not know after the 38 years of warning labels, media howls, etc.

None of the regular posters to the property rights and smoking threads has ever suggested that smoking is a harmless endeavor and practically all of us have lost either a relative and/or a friend to any debilitating disease the most paranoid hypochondriac could name.

Still we do it. Why?

Actually, fellow citizen, it's none of your or anybody else's business why. We don't ask you to justify any of your legal activities to us, we'd like to recieve the same courtesy from others.

My great-grandfather used to smoke stogies and eat raw garlic to make people keep their distance.

I like that.

I can't believe this smoker circle-jerk. Do you people believe that smoking is hazardous to a smoker's health, in the very least, or not? I can't imagine you don't.

You can tell in the first sentence someone writes whether or not he's a nico-Nazi. Why is that? What makes anti-smokers so mean and nasty? Smoking is a RISK, just like many other things people enjoy doing that others consider less than optimal. So what?

By extension, if the mechanism for transmitting the harmful elements into a smoker's body result from LIGHTING CARCINOGENS ON FIRE AND INHALING THEM, I don't want to be around you when you're doing that.

Due to the fact that smokers are far nicer and more interesting than any anti-smoker (as opposed to nonsmoker), I don't want to be around you at any time and I can't imagine any other smokers does either. So stay out of places that permit smoking and we'll all be happy.

Sure, we can discuss other issues of exposure, build-up, etc., but I reject the notion that second-hand smoke is harmless.

Reject it all you want, but you can't prove what you believe. On the other hand, literally decades of experience, a lot of study, and an ordinary amount of common sense proves to me you're wrong.

I also am amazed by the mothers crowing about their failure to stop smoking while pregnant.

Why? Did any of them suffer the dire consequences you seem ready to guarantee? Women have smoked while pregnant for generations and the species has survived quite well. We're the healthiest, longest-lived group in history and we were exposed to the most environmental tobacco smoke.

Sure, we can discuss other issues of exposure, build-up, etc., but I reject the notion that second-hand smoke is harmless. I also am amazed by the mothers crowing about their failure to stop smoking while pregnant.

I couldn't care less what you reject or not reject. Judegement prior to exposure to evidence is the sign of a neurotic mind.

Just don't attempt to formulate public policy on behalf of all of us based on your ignorance.

Well, geeze, reject away. Won't hurt MY feelings. Won't make the facts less onerus to you either. Fact is there is no proven link between so-called secondhand smoke and ANYTHING except maybe bad breath or minor nasal irritation... and terminal halitosis is really hard to catch!

Deal with it and leave smokers alone. In fact, as this is a post by and for smokers and smoking bothers you, don't let the door hit you in the a$$ as you leave the smoking section...