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Editor dies in fall from New York Times office building
Associated Press | 8/22/2002

Posted on 08/22/2002 11:59:55 AM PDT by ArcLight

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To: Tacis
All the evidence points to just your theory. It's got to be.

Notice that the Clintons were conveniently in Martha's Vineyard at the time of the hit.

81 posted on 08/22/2002 3:19:17 PM PDT by ontos-on
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To: paulklenk
I don't know what you said, but if it was as bad as your aplogy makes it sound, maybe you should consider emulating Mr. Myerson. Lighten up, eh.
82 posted on 08/22/2002 3:24:58 PM PDT by ontos-on
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To: ProudAmerican2
Actually the doctor took me off it yesterday as my improved vision is allowing me to see the world more clearly than some people !

I suppose YOU believe the Vince Foster Suicide fable ?(Well I guess that's the effects of YOUR medication.....mine was only an antibiotic.)

83 posted on 08/22/2002 3:31:25 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: hoosierham
QUICK...SEND THE PARK POLICE UP TO THE APPLE! They did such fine work on that ..." FORT MARCY JOB"!
84 posted on 08/22/2002 3:40:17 PM PDT by jaz.357
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"The cracks were in pretty bad taste, but deleting them is a bit too 1984-ist for my liking."

uhhhh...what *he* said.

Besides; everyone knows Starkist wants tunas that taste good.

...not tunas with good taste. ;^)

85 posted on 08/22/2002 3:42:36 PM PDT by Landru
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To: Tacis
Interesting, but most likely he was part of the same crowd, an insider himself, making money out of all too.

See LarryLied's comment.

86 posted on 08/22/2002 3:43:23 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: Naspino
It wasn't the fall that killed him...

It was the landing.

87 posted on 08/22/2002 4:01:24 PM PDT by Bulldog1967
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To: Bulldog1967
landing bump
88 posted on 08/22/2002 4:03:17 PM PDT by ohmage
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To: roses of sharon
Really, I want to see if it is the same guy I saw on Charlie Rose show a month ago. This guy wrote for the NYT on Enron.

Hmmm, you know I think I actually saw him and several other business writers discussing the Enron mess. It was actually a watchable episode because Mr. Rose was off recuperating from his heart surgery and not there to talk over his guests. If the deceased gentleman is who I recall, he was relatively entertaining to listen to -- if not, then the other reporters weren't to bad either.

89 posted on 08/22/2002 4:16:45 PM PDT by LenS
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To: ArcLight
"As with any family, we're called on to endure our share of tragedies," Mathis quoted Sulzberger as saying in the memo. "This is one of those times and our support for one another will help all of us get through it."

This is what you get when a guy with an Oprahfied mentality runs a big business --- unbearably saccharine sentimentality born of pretense and presumption.

It's scary to realize that girly-boy Sulzberger calls the shots at the NYT, and that so many elite and influential Americans depend on his hires for an interpretation of the events of the day.

90 posted on 08/22/2002 4:18:44 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Bigg Red
Kopper, Fastow, Skilling, Lay and the reporter who killed himself were all in the same social circle. New York Times liberal elites. A lavish homosexual wedding for Kopper. Fastow and Skilling pulling a Marc Rich and greasing the right palms. Ken and Linda Lay being primary benefactors to the Houston Holocaust Museum (they gave millions to it). If Myerson were active in this circle, and one would think he attended the galas, the fact that Kopper rolled over on everyone yesterday sure would be a motive for being depressed.
91 posted on 08/22/2002 4:21:12 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Your's is surely the shortest straight line to a motive to jump. But don't discount the Arkancide possibility. The Enron-related "suicide" in Texas involved the victim shooting himself in the back of the head while driving. There is enough money in play here to cause at least a couple murders.
92 posted on 08/22/2002 4:34:41 PM PDT by eno_
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To: tallhappy
Your Myerson articles posted on this thread are pure gold. Thank you for posting them.
93 posted on 08/22/2002 4:40:22 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: eno_
I agree. There was motive for either suicide or murder.

From http://www.vcnet.com/~rossde/edtl_gay_marriage.html:

A significant part of the (ENRON) fraud involved hiding questionable financial arrangements in off-shore limited partnerships. To a large extent, that hiding was legal if at least 3% of a limited partnership was owned by a corporate "outsider", someone who had no connection to Enron either through employment or a relationship to an employee.

Michael Kopper, an assistant to Enron's chief financial officer Andrew Fastow, turned $125,000 into a personal windfall of $10,500,000 while managing Chewco, one of Enron's off-shore partnerships. Kopper also helped to create others of Enron's partnerships from which he profited (profits that rightly belong to Enron itself and to its stockholders, no less than the partnership debts that collapsed Enron).

According to the Los Angeles Times, Kopper's personal ownership share in Chewco was enough that the required 3% outside ownership was not satisfied for that limited partnership. That would have required Chewco's finances to be included with Enron's, blowing the cover on some of the worst of the fraud. To satisfy the 3% criterion, Kopper transferred his share to William Dodson, Kopper's domestic partner. Since Texas law does not give any legal recognition to same-gender domestic partners, Kopper asserts that Dodson cannot be considered an Enron insider.

This creates an interesting situation. Either Dodson is truly an Enron outsider, and thus Chewco was legally kept off Enron's books (eliminating the possibility of criminal charges for this part of the fraud). Or else Dodson's relationship with Kopper made Dodson an insider, which means that prosecution of this part of the fraud creates some legal recognition for same-gender couples. Of course, the way politicians enact laws, we might see same-gender couples receive all the burdens and penalties of married couples but none of the benefits.

(Did Dodson pay full value for Kopper's share of Chewco? Otherwise, Kopper was supposed to pay a federal gift tax. One of the benefits enjoyed by married couples — but not by same-gender domestic partners — is the right to give each other substantial assets tax-free.)

Kopper cops a plea, Fastow's assets are frozen that night and the next day a reporter who covered Enron is dead after falling out a window.

Uh huh....

94 posted on 08/22/2002 4:57:03 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: ArcLight; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; Jeremiah Jr; babylonian; Avoiding_Sulla; Crazymonarch; ..
>fell to his death from the 11th floor

Okay.  Was he also gagged and bound hand and foot or did he have piano wire around his neck? This should keep some of the others quiet.

95 posted on 08/22/2002 5:02:30 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: LarryLied
LarryLied, I think you've hit the nail on the head this time. Kopper's rollover is all that is needed to get to the bottom of Enron. Kopper gets you Fastow, Fastow gets you Skilling and Skilling gets you Lay. glisan morandunt to roll soon. The jig is up and logic says that there is a financial connection to Myerson who wrote all of those incredible ass-kissing stories about the geniuses at Enron for all those years.
Now, we know that Enron was more than willing to pay for publicity, look at Krugman and Kristol. No reason to think an underpaid NYT reporter would say no to a little offshore baksheesh. Who's gonna know?

Mr. Howell Raines! How many of your other reporters are on the take? We expect full onshore and offshore audits of your entire firm to be published in black and white so that we can know if all the news that's fit to print is all bought and paid for by special interests! What do you say Howell Raines? Or can we never trust the paper of record again?? (as if we ever did, but whatever)

96 posted on 08/22/2002 5:15:54 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Southack
Is anyone concerned or have a theory why Cable News, namely Fox News Channel has not covered this. We first heard it from Rush then went to Drudge and got the article...still nothing on Fox News.....
97 posted on 08/22/2002 5:24:12 PM PDT by fourdny2
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To: 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr
fell from the West 43rd Street building

No miracle on 43rd Street.

98 posted on 08/22/2002 5:26:53 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: babble-on; Howlin
Now, we know that Enron was more than willing to pay for publicity, look at Krugman and Kristol

I knew but I forgot! Excellent! Wonder if Krugman and Kristol met Myerson at any Enron parties.There was so much money being lavished on everyone and everything. You are correct. Kopper turning rat is the end for all of them. It is over. Coincidences happen but this reporter killing himself (or being killed) within 24 hours of the case cracking wide open is too much of a coincidence.

Thanks for the memory jog...there were articles posted on FR about Kristol getting paid off by Enron...

99 posted on 08/22/2002 5:41:02 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Southack
An Arkancide in NY? Entirely possible........
100 posted on 08/22/2002 5:42:26 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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