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The alternative, which would be for the government to decree how many children a person may have based upon their socioeconomic status, is unacceptably fascist.

My grandparents had 10 kids and adopted yet another. Grandma kept up to 7 foster kids at a time in addition to her own. Their socioeconomic status was not rich, and yet they did not seek handouts or welfare. They raised all their kids, insured they were fed, clothed, housed, and well cared for through their hard work.

Needless to say, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who had mutiple kids that they either run out on and leave just one parent raising or leave the state taxpayers raising...or even for those who stay and expect the taxpayers to raise them and their kids when they have no intention of working to better themselves.

Perhaps you may think the goverment should never be involved, yet to believe such is also to believe that I, as a taxpayer, should be content in paying for the mistakes of others. See, the government does decree where my tax money goes. If it goes to support those who choose to remain on welfare because they have 5, 6, 7 or 8 kids they cannot afford to feed or because they were dumped there when one parent chose to take off, I have a beef with that. I find that unacceptable.

If ppl were more responsible with themselves, we wouldn't need a government to decide anything. The government also feels it ok to decree how much money a person can have when that person's method of getting money is by taking it from someone else (ie: stealing). I don't see much difference in someone who continually has kids and dumps them on others to care for. They are, in a sense, stealing themselves. Or, we could all just toss those kids in the garbage and let them fend for themselves I suppose. Would anyone really like to see that? Or would you prefer that we continue raising what others throw out?

The alternative, which would be for the government to decree how many children a person may have based upon their socioeconomic status, is unacceptably fascist.

And that is the way things need to be. My cousin has twelve kids, and refuses to accept money from family, much less the government. In a rustic make-your-own-toys way, her family is in great shape. No welfare needed.

Needless to say, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who had mutiple kids that they either run out on and leave just one parent raising or leave the state taxpayers raising...or even for those who stay and expect the taxpayers to raise them and their kids when they have no intention of working to better themselves.

Ditto.

Perhaps you may think the goverment should never be involved, yet to believe such is also to believe that I, as a taxpayer, should be content in paying for the mistakes of others. See, the government does decree where my tax money goes. If it goes to support those who choose to remain on welfare because they have 5, 6, 7 or 8 kids they cannot afford to feed or because they were dumped there when one parent chose to take off, I have a beef with that. I find that unacceptable. prefer that we continue raising what others throw out?

Again, you make a quantum leap and then argue against scarecrows I never built. I'm against the govt. telling people how many kids to have and am against the govt. spending taxmoney to welfare-support other people's kids.

Or, we could all just toss those kids in the garbage and let them fend for themselves I suppose. Would anyone really like to see that? Or would you prefer that we continue raising what others throw out?

People should raise their own children and people should support their own children, with neither biological parent being presumed to have greater rights or responsibilities than the other.