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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo; RogerFGay; Don Joe; Orangedog; HairOfTheDog; right2parent; Outlaw76; ...
The alternative, which would be for the government to decree how many children a person may have based upon their socioeconomic status, is unacceptably fascist.

My grandparents had 10 kids and adopted yet another. Grandma kept up to 7 foster kids at a time in addition to her own. Their socioeconomic status was not rich, and yet they did not seek handouts or welfare. They raised all their kids, insured they were fed, clothed, housed, and well cared for through their hard work. prefer that we continue raising what others throw out?

And that is the way things need to be. My cousin has twelve kids, and refuses to accept money from family, much less the government. In a rustic make-your-own-toys way, her family is in great shape. No welfare needed.

Needless to say, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who had mutiple kids that they either run out on and leave just one parent raising or leave the state taxpayers raising...or even for those who stay and expect the taxpayers to raise them and their kids when they have no intention of working to better themselves.

Ditto.

Perhaps you may think the goverment should never be involved, yet to believe such is also to believe that I, as a taxpayer, should be content in paying for the mistakes of others. See, the government does decree where my tax money goes. If it goes to support those who choose to remain on welfare because they have 5, 6, 7 or 8 kids they cannot afford to feed or because they were dumped there when one parent chose to take off, I have a beef with that. I find that unacceptable. prefer that we continue raising what others throw out?

Again, you make a quantum leap and then argue against scarecrows I never built. I'm against the govt. telling people how many kids to have and am against the govt. spending taxmoney to welfare-support other people's kids.

Or, we could all just toss those kids in the garbage and let them fend for themselves I suppose. Would anyone really like to see that? Or would you prefer that we continue raising what others throw out?

People should raise their own children and people should support their own children, with neither biological parent being presumed to have greater rights or responsibilities than the other.

1,010 posted on 09/02/2002 12:41:24 PM PDT by Right To Life
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To: Right To Life
People should raise their own children and people should support their own children, with neither biological parent being presumed to have greater rights or responsibilities than the other.
People should but if they don't want to and no one insures that they do, are you proposing we just forget about them and not discuss them because they are losers? What do we do with their kids?
1,013 posted on 09/02/2002 12:51:02 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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Perhaps you may think the goverment should never be involved, yet to believe such is also to believe that I, as a taxpayer, should be content in paying for the mistakes of others.

Well, that's a weird thing to say. If the government isn't involved, they wouldn't be spending your tax money on it. Here's the thing maybe you don't understand. Since the federal government got involved in child support, they are now spending more than $4 billion a year more of your hard earned tax money. The people who are paying child support through the new system are the same people who were paying before the new system was created. It's just costing the taxpayers more than $4 billion a year.
1,025 posted on 09/02/2002 2:06:18 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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